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brentromero
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Network Congestion on 802.11a link Reply with quote

Configuration:

Gateway 820GM -> Linksys WRT55AG -> Linksys MCX

When configuring wirelessly, the MCX says that the signal strength on my
802.11a is 'Excellent' but the Network Performance tool always advises of
performance problems when the time comes to connect. On the Network
Performance display the signal rarely rises above the center line; I use the
graph mode vs the bars.

Is the tool only for the 2.4 GHz range? I've tried disabling the G side of
the router but with no change in the symptoms. Heck, I had better signal
strength readings on the G channel but each time the phone rang it knocked
off the connection.

Many thanks in advance to any advice.

B
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Bob [MVP]
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Network Congestion on 802.11a link Reply with quote

I have the same router, and had the same problem as you.
802.11g does have better range than 802.11a, but like you
said, it's more susceptible to interference.

You could replace your 2.4GHz cordless phone with a 950MHz
model. (and replace your microwave oven with a toaster oven. ;)

I finally gave up on wireless for my extender, bought a 100ft
Cat5e cable on eBay, and wired it up. If that's an option for
you, I highly recommend it.

--
-Bob
_______________________________
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Media Center Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/ehome


"brentromero" <brentromero@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0B2A1C01-3AEE-4A93-BD9A-718CB46BDB86@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Configuration:

Gateway 820GM -> Linksys WRT55AG -> Linksys MCX

When configuring wirelessly, the MCX says that the signal strength on my
802.11a is 'Excellent' but the Network Performance tool always advises of
performance problems when the time comes to connect. On the Network
Performance display the signal rarely rises above the center line; I use the
graph mode vs the bars.

Is the tool only for the 2.4 GHz range? I've tried disabling the G side of
the router but with no change in the symptoms. Heck, I had better signal
strength readings on the G channel but each time the phone rang it knocked
off the connection.

Many thanks in advance to any advice.

B


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brentromero
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:07 am    Post subject: Re: Network Congestion on 802.11a link Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick reply, Bob. It's comforting to know I'm not alone.

Distance-wise, I have the router & extender within 3 feet of each other
while I've been setting this up. Heck, I started with a Linksys A + G
internal card but thought it wasn't enough. I even returned the extender for
a new one cuz I thought it was hosed up as well.

Any ideas on the Network Performance being so low on 5 GHz? Will it process
the same as with the G transmission? I haven't tried the 2.4 GHz channel
since getting an external A + G router but I will this weekend.

I've also had trouble with file sharing and have been reading copious blogs
on how how to resolve the permissions problems with the extender. Do you
know of a simple resolution? I've un-checked Simple File Sharing function
and gave Everyone 'Full Control' as well as giving the MCX-1 & MCRD users
Full Control.

And STILL the extender drops its connection if I try accessing Pictures,
Music, or Video. I see the folders come up on MCX but when I try to open up
any one of the subfolders, it drops connection every time. Hence my thought
of the 'network congestion' that was hosing my Live TV as well.

On the bright side, I'm gaining a boat-load of knowledge about computers!

TIA,
Brent



"Bob [MVP]" wrote:

Quote:
I have the same router, and had the same problem as you.
802.11g does have better range than 802.11a, but like you
said, it's more susceptible to interference.

You could replace your 2.4GHz cordless phone with a 950MHz
model. (and replace your microwave oven with a toaster oven. ;)

I finally gave up on wireless for my extender, bought a 100ft
Cat5e cable on eBay, and wired it up. If that's an option for
you, I highly recommend it.

--
-Bob
_______________________________
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Media Center Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/ehome


"brentromero" <brentromero@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0B2A1C01-3AEE-4A93-BD9A-718CB46BDB86@microsoft.com...
Configuration:

Gateway 820GM -> Linksys WRT55AG -> Linksys MCX

When configuring wirelessly, the MCX says that the signal strength on my
802.11a is 'Excellent' but the Network Performance tool always advises of
performance problems when the time comes to connect. On the Network
Performance display the signal rarely rises above the center line; I use the
graph mode vs the bars.

Is the tool only for the 2.4 GHz range? I've tried disabling the G side of
the router but with no change in the symptoms. Heck, I had better signal
strength readings on the G channel but each time the phone rang it knocked
off the connection.

Many thanks in advance to any advice.

B



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Cari (MS-MVP)
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:21 am    Post subject: Re: Network Congestion on 802.11a link Reply with quote

I ended up getting 3 separate Access Points.... one is the Linksys
Wireless-G which I use for my old notebook and the test platform PC, the
second is a D-Link Wireless Super-G which I use for my new notebook... and
the Extender connects to the MCE with an older D-Link Wireless-A.... finally
the network congestion is gone.

The wired side connect to a Linksys router.... (and the Wireless-A connects
to this also).... the others use a Linksys Switch which the other two Access
Points connect to and so does my Server (wired)....

The sole consolation is that when guests arrive, I have plenty of room for
other wireless devices to connect in my household. I've found my 2.4gb
wireless phone interferes with the Linksys Wireless-G, but does not have the
same problems with the two D-Links APs.

My husband says I now have an IT Department. I just wish I could have more
than one MCX connected wirelessly.... Having gotten rid of 90% of the cables
round the house, it would seem really stupid to add another just to have a
second MCX.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Printing & Imaging



"brentromero" <brentromero@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0B2A1C01-3AEE-4A93-BD9A-718CB46BDB86@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Configuration:

Gateway 820GM -> Linksys WRT55AG -> Linksys MCX

When configuring wirelessly, the MCX says that the signal strength on my
802.11a is 'Excellent' but the Network Performance tool always advises of
performance problems when the time comes to connect. On the Network
Performance display the signal rarely rises above the center line; I use
the
graph mode vs the bars.

Is the tool only for the 2.4 GHz range? I've tried disabling the G side
of
the router but with no change in the symptoms. Heck, I had better signal
strength readings on the G channel but each time the phone rang it knocked
off the connection.

Many thanks in advance to any advice.

B


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brentromero
Guest





Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Network Congestion on 802.11a link Reply with quote

Cari, does the Network Performance utility give you a signal strength if your
MCX is 'wired' to the A Router?

Also, just before I select the SSID for the 'wireless' MCX, the signal
strength at the MCX display is reported as excellent but after connecting the
Network Performance display on the MCE never rises above the midway opint of
the graph.

I'm gonna try your config as I too have an old VAIO laptop and the Linksys G
w/Speedbooster router. I also have a Linksys RTP300 phone adapter/router. I
wonder about the possibilities.....(!)
--
brentromero


"Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:

Quote:
I ended up getting 3 separate Access Points.... one is the Linksys
Wireless-G which I use for my old notebook and the test platform PC, the
second is a D-Link Wireless Super-G which I use for my new notebook... and
the Extender connects to the MCE with an older D-Link Wireless-A.... finally
the network congestion is gone.

The wired side connect to a Linksys router.... (and the Wireless-A connects
to this also).... the others use a Linksys Switch which the other two Access
Points connect to and so does my Server (wired)....

The sole consolation is that when guests arrive, I have plenty of room for
other wireless devices to connect in my household. I've found my 2.4gb
wireless phone interferes with the Linksys Wireless-G, but does not have the
same problems with the two D-Links APs.

My husband says I now have an IT Department. I just wish I could have more
than one MCX connected wirelessly.... Having gotten rid of 90% of the cables
round the house, it would seem really stupid to add another just to have a
second MCX.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Printing & Imaging



"brentromero" <brentromero@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0B2A1C01-3AEE-4A93-BD9A-718CB46BDB86@microsoft.com...
Configuration:

Gateway 820GM -> Linksys WRT55AG -> Linksys MCX

When configuring wirelessly, the MCX says that the signal strength on my
802.11a is 'Excellent' but the Network Performance tool always advises of
performance problems when the time comes to connect. On the Network
Performance display the signal rarely rises above the center line; I use
the
graph mode vs the bars.

Is the tool only for the 2.4 GHz range? I've tried disabling the G side
of
the router but with no change in the symptoms. Heck, I had better signal
strength readings on the G channel but each time the phone rang it knocked
off the connection.

Many thanks in advance to any advice.

B





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Cari (MS-MVP)
Guest





Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Network Congestion on 802.11a link Reply with quote

I'll have to install Visio and try and draw it! It's certainly
interesting.... particularly when I have brain fade and can't remember which
SSID belongs to which AP!!!

The best part is viewing available networks..... all my neighbors unsecured
networks appear as well, it makes everything look a little crowded round
here! I think there were three linksys's and one netgear last time I
looked. On the odd days when their signal is strong enough, I can pick up
McCarran (Vegas airport) as well.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Printing & Imaging



"Barb Bowman MVP-Windows" <barb@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:1pd7n1tqlq2r4cl00en6m30skr0f6vsaci@4ax.com...
Quote:
It must look like the network diagram in my almost year old column on
segmenting networks.

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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Cari (MS-MVP)
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Network Congestion on 802.11a link Reply with quote

I think it's really a matter of experimenting and seeing what works in your
residence. As I posted in response to Barb, I can also see four of my
neighbors' unsecured networks... and if that is also the case in your area,
you may be getting interference from them..... I'd love to find out who owns
which, knock on their doors and tell them to secure their networks, but that
might be difficult since I have no clue where they are.

My next door neighbor's HP LaserJet 4 appears now and then as one of my
printers... I did tell them but they've done nothing about it.

We are a single storey house, which helps.... and it has to be at least 75'
from Wireless-A to MCX but it's not failed..... yet.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Printing & Imaging



"brentromero" <brentromero@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:92B5467B-231D-4F6F-87C8-30F3E31A77A1@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Cari, does the Network Performance utility give you a signal strength if
your
MCX is 'wired' to the A Router?

Also, just before I select the SSID for the 'wireless' MCX, the signal
strength at the MCX display is reported as excellent but after connecting
the
Network Performance display on the MCE never rises above the midway opint
of
the graph.

I'm gonna try your config as I too have an old VAIO laptop and the Linksys
G
w/Speedbooster router. I also have a Linksys RTP300 phone adapter/router.
I
wonder about the possibilities.....(!)
--
brentromero


"Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:

I ended up getting 3 separate Access Points.... one is the Linksys
Wireless-G which I use for my old notebook and the test platform PC, the
second is a D-Link Wireless Super-G which I use for my new notebook...
and
the Extender connects to the MCE with an older D-Link Wireless-A....
finally
the network congestion is gone.

The wired side connect to a Linksys router.... (and the Wireless-A
connects
to this also).... the others use a Linksys Switch which the other two
Access
Points connect to and so does my Server (wired)....

The sole consolation is that when guests arrive, I have plenty of room
for
other wireless devices to connect in my household. I've found my 2.4gb
wireless phone interferes with the Linksys Wireless-G, but does not have
the
same problems with the two D-Links APs.

My husband says I now have an IT Department. I just wish I could have
more
than one MCX connected wirelessly.... Having gotten rid of 90% of the
cables
round the house, it would seem really stupid to add another just to have
a
second MCX.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Printing & Imaging



"brentromero" <brentromero@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0B2A1C01-3AEE-4A93-BD9A-718CB46BDB86@microsoft.com...
Configuration:

Gateway 820GM -> Linksys WRT55AG -> Linksys MCX

When configuring wirelessly, the MCX says that the signal strength on
my
802.11a is 'Excellent' but the Network Performance tool always advises
of
performance problems when the time comes to connect. On the Network
Performance display the signal rarely rises above the center line; I
use
the
graph mode vs the bars.

Is the tool only for the 2.4 GHz range? I've tried disabling the G
side
of
the router but with no change in the symptoms. Heck, I had better
signal
strength readings on the G channel but each time the phone rang it
knocked
off the connection.

Many thanks in advance to any advice.

B





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Barb Bowman MVP-Windows
Guest





Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Network Congestion on 802.11a link Reply with quote

It must look like the network diagram in my almost year old column on
segmenting networks.

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:21:17 -0800, "Cari \(MS-MVP\)"
<Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote:

Quote:
I ended up getting 3 separate Access Points.... one is the Linksys
Wireless-G which I use for my old notebook and the test platform PC, the
second is a D-Link Wireless Super-G which I use for my new notebook... and
the Extender connects to the MCE with an older D-Link Wireless-A.... finally
the network congestion is gone.
--


Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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