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Darrell
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by default
is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and where do I
check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?

Darrell
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Lew
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: RE: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

Actually, what is the current thinking on disabling uPnP? Steve Gibson
(www.grc.com) vehemently insists that it should be turned off. But I've seen
a number of criticisms of Steve's "security expertise." Apparently, the FBI
used to receommend turning uPNP off but no longer does so.

Is there a consensus here?

"Darrell" wrote:

Quote:
I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by default
is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and where do I
check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?

Darrell
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Darrell
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

Thanks Carey.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

Quote:
Go to Start > Run and type: SERVICES.MSC , and hit enter.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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"Darrell" wrote:

| I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by default
| is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and where do I
| check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?
|
| Darrell
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Darrell
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: RE: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

Lew,

That was my source for turning it off. I did see where the FBI recommended
turning it off but then they flip-flopped.

"Lew" wrote:

Quote:
Actually, what is the current thinking on disabling uPnP? Steve Gibson
(www.grc.com) vehemently insists that it should be turned off. But I've seen
a number of criticisms of Steve's "security expertise." Apparently, the FBI
used to receommend turning uPNP off but no longer does so.

Is there a consensus here?

"Darrell" wrote:

I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by default
is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and where do I
check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?

Darrell
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Steven L Umbach
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

If the device require UPnP then they may need to be enabled. You will have
to read the documentation. I have both disabled on all my home computers
with no problems. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7F3117C8-FDB3-49B1-A562-F79401FAE5D4@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Hi Steven,

UPnP was not started but SSDP Discovery Service was started so I stopped
that service. If I may ask you a question, do I need either of these
services running if I want to run a home network or if I want to use VOIP?


"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

Look at the configuration for the SSDP discovery service and the
Universal
plug and play device host services. Set them to disabled and stop the
service if you do not need them. You can use services.msc to see/manage
the
configuration of services and services can also be managed via Group
Policy
computer configuration in an AD domain. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3656289E-C92A-4E9D-9046-87D42F42E4DA@microsoft.com...
I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by
default
is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and where
do
I
check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?

Darrell


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Darrell
Guest





Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

Hi Steven,

UPnP was not started but SSDP Discovery Service was started so I stopped
that service. If I may ask you a question, do I need either of these
services running if I want to run a home network or if I want to use VOIP?


"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

Quote:
Look at the configuration for the SSDP discovery service and the Universal
plug and play device host services. Set them to disabled and stop the
service if you do not need them. You can use services.msc to see/manage the
configuration of services and services can also be managed via Group Policy
computer configuration in an AD domain. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3656289E-C92A-4E9D-9046-87D42F42E4DA@microsoft.com...
I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by default
is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and where do
I
check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?

Darrell


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Steven L Umbach
Guest





Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

Look at the configuration for the SSDP discovery service and the Universal
plug and play device host services. Set them to disabled and stop the
service if you do not need them. You can use services.msc to see/manage the
configuration of services and services can also be managed via Group Policy
computer configuration in an AD domain. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3656289E-C92A-4E9D-9046-87D42F42E4DA@microsoft.com...
Quote:
I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by default
is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and where do
I
check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?

Darrell
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Carey Frisch [MVP]
Guest





Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

Go to Start > Run and type: SERVICES.MSC , and hit enter.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Darrell" wrote:

| I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by default
| is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and where do I
| check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?
|
| Darrell
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Darrell
Guest





Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

When I disable SSDP Discovery Services and restart my system, the status
changes back to "Started". How can I prevent this from happening?

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

Quote:
If the device require UPnP then they may need to be enabled. You will have
to read the documentation. I have both disabled on all my home computers
with no problems. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7F3117C8-FDB3-49B1-A562-F79401FAE5D4@microsoft.com...
Hi Steven,

UPnP was not started but SSDP Discovery Service was started so I stopped
that service. If I may ask you a question, do I need either of these
services running if I want to run a home network or if I want to use VOIP?


"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

Look at the configuration for the SSDP discovery service and the
Universal
plug and play device host services. Set them to disabled and stop the
service if you do not need them. You can use services.msc to see/manage
the
configuration of services and services can also be managed via Group
Policy
computer configuration in an AD domain. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3656289E-C92A-4E9D-9046-87D42F42E4DA@microsoft.com...
I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by
default
is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and where
do
I
check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?

Darrell





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Wesley Vogel
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

If you do not have a network, you do not need it running, disable it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128020314/http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm#Universal_Plug_and_Play_Device_Host

http://snakefoot.fateback.com/tweak/winnt/service/stuv.html#UPNPHOST

http://www.theeldergeek.com/universal_plug_and_play_device_host.htm

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:813CE255-B0B1-4306-B3D3-3BE9597C324C@microsoft.com,
Lew <Lew@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
Quote:
Actually, what is the current thinking on disabling uPnP? Steve Gibson
(www.grc.com) vehemently insists that it should be turned off. But I've
seen a number of criticisms of Steve's "security expertise." Apparently,
the FBI used to receommend turning uPNP off but no longer does so.

Is there a consensus here?

"Darrell" wrote:

I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by
default is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How
and where do I check to see the current state of my systems UPnP
services?

Darrell
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David H. Lipman
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

From: "Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com>

| When I disable SSDP Discovery Services and restart my system, the status
| changes back to "Started". How can I prevent this from happening?
|


Change the service to disabled.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
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David H. Lipman
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

From: "Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com>

| Lew,
|
| That was my source for turning it off. I did see where the FBI recommended
| turning it off but then they flip-flopped.
|


Steve Gibson is no more than a Scare Monger and is NOT a source for security information.
Disregard information at the GRC web site and *only* get security information from
authorative security sites !

For Example; US CERT, CIAC and Secunia.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
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David H. Lipman
Guest





Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net>

| You probably do not need it even if you are on a network. --- Steve
|

Not true. There are many software applications and hardware appliances that use uPnP to
setup a uPnP compliant NAT device to properly open and/or forward needed TCP and/or UDP
ports for proper communication.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
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Darrell
Guest





Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

Steven,

The startup type shows manual for UPnP and SSDP Discovery Services. I do
not see how to disable it, I just see how to start and stop the service. Can
you tell me how to disable? XP Pro SP2.

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

Quote:
What does the startup type show? It needs to be disabled and not just
stopped. If you leave it automatic it will start again after a system
reboot. Make sure you hit "apply" after changing it to disabled. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E9F5923A-29C8-4CDD-A55E-E8F979D81C20@microsoft.com...
When I disable SSDP Discovery Services and restart my system, the status
changes back to "Started". How can I prevent this from happening?

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

If the device require UPnP then they may need to be enabled. You will
have
to read the documentation. I have both disabled on all my home computers
with no problems. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7F3117C8-FDB3-49B1-A562-F79401FAE5D4@microsoft.com...
Hi Steven,

UPnP was not started but SSDP Discovery Service was started so I
stopped
that service. If I may ask you a question, do I need either of these
services running if I want to run a home network or if I want to use
VOIP?


"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

Look at the configuration for the SSDP discovery service and the
Universal
plug and play device host services. Set them to disabled and stop the
service if you do not need them. You can use services.msc to
see/manage
the
configuration of services and services can also be managed via Group
Policy
computer configuration in an AD domain. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3656289E-C92A-4E9D-9046-87D42F42E4DA@microsoft.com...
I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by
default
is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and
where
do
I
check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?

Darrell








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Steven L Umbach
Guest





Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

And you can often work around such without using UPnP and all the noise it
creates on the network. --- Steve


"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:euTOvia5FHA.2628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Quote:
From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net

| You probably do not need it even if you are on a network. --- Steve
|

Not true. There are many software applications and hardware appliances
that use uPnP to
setup a uPnP compliant NAT device to properly open and/or forward needed
TCP and/or UDP
ports for proper communication.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

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