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Mandi
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: MSN Messenger in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another Reply with quote
I have a network with a NAT router. Using a voice call between MSN Messenger
in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another causes the voice call to end
immediatly after starting. Using in both PC's similar messenger works
fine.Can someone advise please?

Thanks

Mandi
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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
Guest
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: MSN Messenger in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another Reply with quote
Greetings Mandi,

This is behind the same network right? If so, the router itself might be trying to translate
the requests to external IPs stopping this from working properly (this is more known on the
Windows Messenger side, as router companies were targeting that version of the protocol).
Using MSN Messenger in both should get around that.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2005 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"Mandi" <mandi@baner.com> wrote in message news:eb8vA1OuFHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Quote:
I have a network with a NAT router. Using a voice call between MSN Messenger
in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another causes the voice call to end
immediatly after starting. Using in both PC's similar messenger works
fine.Can someone advise please?

Thanks

Mandi

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blero_
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: MSN Messenger in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another Reply with quote
Mandi - news:eb8vA1OuFHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl :

Quote:
I have a network with a NAT router. Using a voice call between MSN
Messenger in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another causes the voice
call to end immediatly after starting. Using in both PC's similar
messenger works fine.Can someone advise please?

I have a network with a NAT router, too. The router is not UPnP.
In my case, if MSN Messenger on one PC initiates the call (and Windows
Messenger accepts it on another), the voice communication works fine.
If Windows Messenger initiates the call (and MSN Messenger accepts it),
the connection fails.

Quote:
Using in both PC's similar messenger works fine

Same here.
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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
Guest
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: MSN Messenger in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another Reply with quote
Hi,

You'll see this because MSN Messenger has far better support for non-UPnP routers and it's
still using a protocol which is compatible with Windows Messenger so it works.

If you send out an invitation with Windows Messenger and don't have a UPnP router, it simply
will not work period.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2005 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"blero_" <OMLEIPHTEQPD@spammotel.com> wrote in message
news:43297c54$0$18648$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
Quote:
Mandi - news:eb8vA1OuFHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl :

I have a network with a NAT router. Using a voice call between MSN
Messenger in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another causes the voice
call to end immediatly after starting. Using in both PC's similar
messenger works fine.Can someone advise please?

I have a network with a NAT router, too. The router is not UPnP.
In my case, if MSN Messenger on one PC initiates the call (and Windows Messenger accepts it
on another), the voice communication works fine.
If Windows Messenger initiates the call (and MSN Messenger accepts it), the connection
fails.

Using in both PC's similar messenger works fine

Same here.
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blero_
Guest
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: MSN Messenger in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another Reply with quote
Update:

Good news, with the latest build of Windows Messenger (5.1.0701), it
works.

Jonathan Kay [MVP] - news:%23awuPVjuFHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl :

Quote:
Hi,

You'll see this because MSN Messenger has far better support for
non-UPnP routers and it's still using a protocol which is compatible
with Windows Messenger so it works.
If you send out an invitation with Windows Messenger and don't have a
UPnP router, it simply will not work period.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2005 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"blero_" <OMLEIPHTEQPD@spammotel.com> wrote in message
news:43297c54$0$18648$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
Mandi - news:eb8vA1OuFHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl :

I have a network with a NAT router. Using a voice call between MSN
Messenger in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another causes the
voice call to end immediatly after starting. Using in both PC's
similar messenger works fine.Can someone advise please?

I have a network with a NAT router, too. The router is not UPnP.
In my case, if MSN Messenger on one PC initiates the call (and
Windows Messenger accepts it on another), the voice communication
works fine. If Windows Messenger initiates the call (and MSN
Messenger accepts
it), the connection fails.

Using in both PC's similar messenger works fine

Same here.
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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
Guest
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: MSN Messenger in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another Reply with quote
Hi,

Glad to hear it :)
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2005 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"blero_" <OMLEIPHTEQPD@spammotel.com> wrote in message
news:432d8a46$0$248$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
Quote:
Update:

Good news, with the latest build of Windows Messenger (5.1.0701), it works.

Jonathan Kay [MVP] - news:%23awuPVjuFHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl :

Hi,

You'll see this because MSN Messenger has far better support for
non-UPnP routers and it's still using a protocol which is compatible
with Windows Messenger so it works.
If you send out an invitation with Windows Messenger and don't have a
UPnP router, it simply will not work period.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2005 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"blero_" <OMLEIPHTEQPD@spammotel.com> wrote in message
news:43297c54$0$18648$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
Mandi - news:eb8vA1OuFHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl :

I have a network with a NAT router. Using a voice call between MSN
Messenger in one PC and WIndows Messenger in another causes the
voice call to end immediatly after starting. Using in both PC's
similar messenger works fine.Can someone advise please?

I have a network with a NAT router, too. The router is not UPnP.
In my case, if MSN Messenger on one PC initiates the call (and
Windows Messenger accepts it on another), the voice communication
works fine. If Windows Messenger initiates the call (and MSN Messenger accepts
it), the connection fails.

Using in both PC's similar messenger works fine

Same here.
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