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ohaya
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: HELP! Windows XP Home logs off immediately - copying us Reply with quote
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Can you remove the hard drive from her machine, and place it in your
machine as a slave?

If so, then open the registry, highlight [HKLM] then click on "File"
then "Load Hive". Navigate to "windows\system32\config" on *her hard
drive* and select the file "system" (has no file extension). Enter a
name for the hive. Then navigate to:

[HKLM\<the name you entered>\SYSTEM\MountedDevices]

and then delete all the values that look like:

\DosDevices\C

Once you have done this, Highlight [HKLM\<the name you entered>], then
click "File > Unload Hive". Then remove the Hard and replace back into
her machine.



William,

I have other Win2K machines, but no other XP machine. Can I do what you
suggest if I move her hard drive to one of the Win2K machines?

Also, I just started regedit, and I don't see a "File" menu item. Did
you mean to use regedt32 instead or regedit?

Thanks,
Jim
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WTC
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: HELP! Windows XP Home logs off immediately - copying us Reply with quote
"ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
news:428C1599.576255B8@cox.net...
Quote:


WTC wrote:

"ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
news:428C0AE5.3050167A@cox.net...
Hi,

My daughter's Windows XP SP2 system starting having a problem as
follows:

1) Boot system
2) XP Logon page appears
3) I click a user, and attempt to login
4) It says "Loading preferences", then almost immediately logs me
off

I've tried the fix of booting to the XP CD, going to Repair, and
copying
C:\windows\system32\userinit.exe to wsaupdater.exe, but after
typing
"exit" in the Repair Console and going back to the logon page, I am
seeing exactly the same behavior.

I've tried this several times, and checked, and the userinit.exe
file
and the wsaupdater.exe file are exactly the same size in
C:\windows\system32.

Can anyone help with this? Is there something else that I need to
do?


The problem may be an incorrect system drive letter rather than
userinit.exe. Open the registry on the system that is causing you
trouble via a networked
machine, navigate to "HKLM\SYSTEM\MountedDevices" and delete all
values
that look like this:

\DosDevices\C

Thanks for the suggestion, but I can't connect to her machine (with
regedit). I get a popup error box "Error Connecting Network
Registry".
I have a feeling from the message that the remote registry service may
not be running on her machine :(.

FYI, I have also tried booting to Safemode, and get the same results
when trying to login, i.e., it just logs off.

I've also just tried expanding USERINIT.EX_ from the XP CD into
C:\windows\system32\userinit.exe and
c:\windows\system32\wsaupdater.exe,
and still get the same results :(...

Can anyone help with this?



Can you remove the hard drive from her machine, and place it in your
machine as a slave?

If so, then open the registry, highlight [HKLM] then click on "File"
then "Load Hive". Navigate to "windows\system32\config" on *her hard
drive* and select the file "system" (has no file extension). Enter a
name for the hive. Then navigate to:

[HKLM\<the name you entered>\SYSTEM\MountedDevices]

and then delete all the values that look like:

\DosDevices\C

Once you have done this, Highlight [HKLM\<the name you entered>], then
click "File > Unload Hive". Then remove the Hard and replace back into
her machine.

--
William
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ohaya
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP! Windows XP Home logs off immediately - copying Reply with quote
Quote:

Sorry I misunderstood, about the renaming part. I thought it read
"HKLM\<hivename>\MountedDevices?".

Yes I would delete all the "DosDevices\*".


William,

Sigh :(....

I deleted all of them, and did the "Unload Hive", rebooted, and no joy.
I tried to login but it logged me off immediately again :(...


I was wondering. I've seen some msgs about XP silently refusing to
login when the Event Viewer is full. The MS KB article says to call MS
to get a new MSGina.dll.

Is it possible that that is my problem (that the Event Viewer got
full)???


Any other ideas?

Jim
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WTC
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP! Windows XP Home logs off immediately - copying Reply with quote
"ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
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Quote:


Sorry I misunderstood, about the renaming part. I thought it read
"HKLM\<hivename>\MountedDevices?".

Yes I would delete all the "DosDevices\*".


Sigh :(....

I deleted all of them, and did the "Unload Hive", rebooted, and no
joy.
I tried to login but it logged me off immediately again :(...


I was wondering. I've seen some msgs about XP silently refusing to
login when the Event Viewer is full. The MS KB article says to call
MS
to get a new MSGina.dll.

Is it possible that that is my problem (that the Event Viewer got
full)???


Any other ideas?



It is possible, could you post a link to that KB article. I would give
them a ring if this doesn't work out.
Could you load this hive "software" found in "windows\system32"
Then go to [HKLM\<hivename>\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon] and see if the key "Userinit" has the value
of "c:\windows\system32\userinit.exe,"

Note: Make sure there is a comma (,) after userinit.exe.

You could also try to do a repair install.
How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315341

Use Method 2 and read the article very carefully.

Use the XP Home SP2 disk you created to do this with.

Anyways, I will stay up for a little bit more then I am off to bed.

--
William
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ohaya
Guest
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP! Windows XP Home logs off immediately - copying Reply with quote
Quote:
It is possible, could you post a link to that KB article. I would give
them a ring if this doesn't work out.
Could you load this hive "software" found in "windows\system32"
Then go to [HKLM\<hivename>\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon] and see if the key "Userinit" has the value
of "c:\windows\system32\userinit.exe,"

Note: Make sure there is a comma (,) after userinit.exe.

You could also try to do a repair install.
How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315341

Use Method 2 and read the article very carefully.

Use the XP Home SP2 disk you created to do this with.

Anyways, I will stay up for a little bit more then I am off to bed.


William,

Well, I was JUST about to post that I just fixed this problem, and saw
your post above :) [really!]!!

I think that the problem was that the "Userinit" key was COMPLETELY
missing from the registry.

When I was doing the deletes of the DosDevices stuff earlier, I had
loaded in the SOFTWARE hive, and I noticed that the Userinit key was
missing totally. I kind of ignored it, because I was trying to get the
DosDevices\* deleted.

Then, after deleting all of the DosDevices\* didn't do anything, I was
about to give up, but then I figured I'd try to ADD the Userinit and
populate it with "C:\WINDOWS\system32\userinit.exe".

I did that, and then rebooted the system, thinking "probably won't make
a difference", and VOILA, the system let me log in!!!!


All of the articles, etc. that I've seen talk about the Userinit key
being changed to "C:\WINDOWS\system32\wsaupdater.exe,", but NONE of them
ever mentioned the possibility of the Userinit key being totally missing
:(...


Thanks for all of your help and patience!!

Jim
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WTC
Guest
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP! Windows XP Home logs off immediately - copying Reply with quote
"ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
news:428C5673.29612F6C@cox.net...
Quote:
It is possible, could you post a link to that KB article. I would
give
them a ring if this doesn't work out.
Could you load this hive "software" found in "windows\system32"
Then go to [HKLM\<hivename>\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon] and see if the key "Userinit" has the
value
of "c:\windows\system32\userinit.exe,"

Note: Make sure there is a comma (,) after userinit.exe.

You could also try to do a repair install.
How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315341

Use Method 2 and read the article very carefully.

Use the XP Home SP2 disk you created to do this with.

Anyways, I will stay up for a little bit more then I am off to bed.


Well, I was JUST about to post that I just fixed this problem, and saw
your post above :) [really!]!!

I think that the problem was that the "Userinit" key was COMPLETELY
missing from the registry.

When I was doing the deletes of the DosDevices stuff earlier, I had
loaded in the SOFTWARE hive, and I noticed that the Userinit key was
missing totally. I kind of ignored it, because I was trying to get
the
DosDevices\* deleted.

Then, after deleting all of the DosDevices\* didn't do anything, I was
about to give up, but then I figured I'd try to ADD the Userinit and
populate it with "C:\WINDOWS\system32\userinit.exe".

I did that, and then rebooted the system, thinking "probably won't
make
a difference", and VOILA, the system let me log in!!!!


All of the articles, etc. that I've seen talk about the Userinit key
being changed to "C:\WINDOWS\system32\wsaupdater.exe,", but NONE of
them
ever mentioned the possibility of the Userinit key being totally
missing
:(...


Thanks for all of your help and patience!!



You are very welcome.

--
William
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Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers
Guest
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP! Windows XP Home logs off immediately - copying Reply with quote
Nice feedback folks, great information to share. Good job on the
troubleshooting as well.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message news:428C5673.29612F6C@cox.net...
Quote:
It is possible, could you post a link to that KB article. I would give
them a ring if this doesn't work out.
Could you load this hive "software" found in "windows\system32"
Then go to [HKLM\<hivename>\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon] and see if the key "Userinit" has the value
of "c:\windows\system32\userinit.exe,"

Note: Make sure there is a comma (,) after userinit.exe.

You could also try to do a repair install.
How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315341

Use Method 2 and read the article very carefully.

Use the XP Home SP2 disk you created to do this with.

Anyways, I will stay up for a little bit more then I am off to bed.


William,

Well, I was JUST about to post that I just fixed this problem, and saw
your post above :) [really!]!!

I think that the problem was that the "Userinit" key was COMPLETELY
missing from the registry.

When I was doing the deletes of the DosDevices stuff earlier, I had
loaded in the SOFTWARE hive, and I noticed that the Userinit key was
missing totally. I kind of ignored it, because I was trying to get the
DosDevices\* deleted.

Then, after deleting all of the DosDevices\* didn't do anything, I was
about to give up, but then I figured I'd try to ADD the Userinit and
populate it with "C:\WINDOWS\system32\userinit.exe".

I did that, and then rebooted the system, thinking "probably won't make
a difference", and VOILA, the system let me log in!!!!


All of the articles, etc. that I've seen talk about the Userinit key
being changed to "C:\WINDOWS\system32\wsaupdater.exe,", but NONE of them
ever mentioned the possibility of the Userinit key being totally missing
:(...


Thanks for all of your help and patience!!

Jim
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ohaya
Guest
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP! Windows XP Home logs off immediately - copying Reply with quote
Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers wrote:
Quote:

Nice feedback folks, great information to share. Good job on the
troubleshooting as well.



Rick,

Yes, it was almost like a realtime chat, wasn't it :)?

Just to round off this thread, I think that William had asked about an
MS article that I had mentioned regarding Windows silently rejecting
logon attempts. As it turns out, this wasn't my problem, but here's the
link to the article:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313322&Product=winxp

Jim
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WTC
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP! Windows XP Home logs off immediately - copying Reply with quote
"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:e56sYDGXFHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Nice feedback folks, great information to share. Good job on the
troubleshooting as well.


Thanks, Rick.

--
William
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WTC
Guest
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP! Windows XP Home logs off immediately - copying Reply with quote
"ohaya" <ohaya@cox.net> wrote in message
news:428C75DA.37318FD@cox.net...
Quote:


Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers wrote:

Nice feedback folks, great information to share. Good job on the
troubleshooting as well.


Yes, it was almost like a realtime chat, wasn't it :)?

Just to round off this thread, I think that William had asked about an
MS article that I had mentioned regarding Windows silently rejecting
logon attempts. As it turns out, this wasn't my problem, but here's
the
link to the article:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313322&Product=winxp



Thank for the link, Jim.

--
William
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ohaya
Guest
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Re: HELP! Windows XP Home logs off immediately - copying Reply with quote
Quote:
Yes, it was almost like a realtime chat, wasn't it :)?

Just to round off this thread, I think that William had asked about an
MS article that I had mentioned regarding Windows silently rejecting
logon attempts. As it turns out, this wasn't my problem, but here's
the
link to the article:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313322&Product=winxp


Thank for the link, Jim.


William,

No, thank you to YOU!

Despite the pain and looong night, I guess the 'upside' (besides getting
her PC working again) was that:

1) I learned how to make a BartPE CD (something I've thought about
before), and

2) I learned how to edit the Registry after booting from the BartPE CD.

So, other than the sleep deprivation, overall, it was a positive thing,
and I thank you (again) for "hanging in there" with me last night...

Jim
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