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kurttrail
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with Parental control issues Reply with quote

andy smart wrote:
Quote:
kurttrail wrote:
andy smart wrote:

kurttrail wrote:


I think it is a total waste of time. All a BIOS password does is
password protect the BIOS, not access to booting the computer. And
it is easily bypassed, and that info is just way to easy to find
out. Hell, post the question of how to reset a BIOS password here
and you'll get at least 3 or 4 replies.


I'm fairly sure that many of the computers we've had here on site
will allow the additon of a BIOS password which kicks in at boot
(several of the students will put one on if we don't password the
BIOS security settings) - maybe not all systems have this, I don't
know. I've spent many a happy hour re-setting them by changing
mainboard jumpers or removing the battery or using software. But
hey I was able and willing to put the time in.


Are you saying that just to turn on a computer and get it to go past
the Post screen a password must be inputted? And this must be done
for every computer? And then one would presume that then you'll
also have passwords to get users into windows too, so to get a
computer working two passwords need to inputted for every computer?

That is not the way most BIOS passwords work. Most only need to be
inputted to get into the BIOS to change its settings.


I just checked on one of our Dell GX270s - the BIOS will allow you to
configure a system password which has to be inputted before the
machine will boot. So my thinking was that if the original poster
made sure that it would always boot from the hard disk first (to
avoid booting from a diskette) then that might help. Our Dells also
have a loop to allow the chassis to be padlocked shut (which should
reduce the risk of the CMOS battery being removed or jumpers altered
to reset the password).

OK Dell does have both a setup password and a system password. Not all
computer BIOSs do.

So how is that gonna turn off the computer at 12:30am, as the OP asked?

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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with Parental control issues Reply with quote

kurttrail wrote:

Quote:
andy smart wrote:

kurttrail wrote:


I think it is a total waste of time. All a BIOS password does is
password protect the BIOS, not access to booting the computer. And
it is easily bypassed, and that info is just way to easy to find out.
Hell, post the question of how to reset a BIOS password here and
you'll get at least 3 or 4 replies.


I'm fairly sure that many of the computers we've had here on site will
allow the additon of a BIOS password which kicks in at boot (several
of the students will put one on if we don't password the BIOS security
settings) - maybe not all systems have this, I don't know. I've spent
many a happy hour re-setting them by changing mainboard jumpers or
removing the battery or using software. But hey I was able and willing
to put the time in.


Are you saying that just to turn on a computer and get it to go past the
Post screen a password must be inputted? And this must be done for
every computer? And then one would presume that then you'll also have
passwords to get users into windows too, so to get a computer working
two passwords need to inputted for every computer?

That is not the way most BIOS passwords work. Most only need to be
inputted to get into the BIOS to change its settings.


Depends whether the BIOS security option is set to System or User in
most BIOSes I've seen that last several years. If set to System it
behaves as you say, if set to User then a password must be entered to
boot up.

Steve
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andy smart
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with Parental control issues Reply with quote

kurttrail wrote:
Quote:
andy smart wrote:

kurttrail wrote:


I think it is a total waste of time. All a BIOS password does is
password protect the BIOS, not access to booting the computer. And
it is easily bypassed, and that info is just way to easy to find out.
Hell, post the question of how to reset a BIOS password here and
you'll get at least 3 or 4 replies.


I'm fairly sure that many of the computers we've had here on site will
allow the additon of a BIOS password which kicks in at boot (several
of the students will put one on if we don't password the BIOS security
settings) - maybe not all systems have this, I don't know. I've spent
many a happy hour re-setting them by changing mainboard jumpers or
removing the battery or using software. But hey I was able and willing
to put the time in.


Are you saying that just to turn on a computer and get it to go past the
Post screen a password must be inputted? And this must be done for
every computer? And then one would presume that then you'll also have
passwords to get users into windows too, so to get a computer working
two passwords need to inputted for every computer?

That is not the way most BIOS passwords work. Most only need to be
inputted to get into the BIOS to change its settings.


I just checked on one of our Dell GX270s - the BIOS will allow you to
configure a system password which has to be inputted before the machine
will boot. So my thinking was that if the original poster made sure that
it would always boot from the hard disk first (to avoid booting from a
diskette) then that might help. Our Dells also have a loop to allow the
chassis to be padlocked shut (which should reduce the risk of the CMOS
battery being removed or jumpers altered to reset the password).
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kurttrail
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Need help with Parental control issues Reply with quote

andy smart wrote:
Quote:
kurttrail wrote:

I think it is a total waste of time. All a BIOS password does is
password protect the BIOS, not access to booting the computer. And
it is easily bypassed, and that info is just way to easy to find out.
Hell, post the question of how to reset a BIOS password here and
you'll get at least 3 or 4 replies.


I'm fairly sure that many of the computers we've had here on site will
allow the additon of a BIOS password which kicks in at boot (several
of the students will put one on if we don't password the BIOS security
settings) - maybe not all systems have this, I don't know. I've spent
many a happy hour re-setting them by changing mainboard jumpers or
removing the battery or using software. But hey I was able and willing
to put the time in.

Are you saying that just to turn on a computer and get it to go past the
Post screen a password must be inputted? And this must be done for
every computer? And then one would presume that then you'll also have
passwords to get users into windows too, so to get a computer working
two passwords need to inputted for every computer?

That is not the way most BIOS passwords work. Most only need to be
inputted to get into the BIOS to change its settings.

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Kurt
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Need help with Parental control issues Reply with quote

On Mon, 16 May 2005 06:36:02 -0700, "Jdona"
<Jdona@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

Quote:
I have an adult child that refuses to log off the computer at a reasonable
hour. Rather than continuing to argue, I am trying to find a way to set an
automatic shut off that will shut the computer down at a specified time, say
12:30 am. I have a Dell 4550 with Windows XP. Does anyone know how to do
that?

What, exactly, is an "adult child?"

And why won't they just follow the directions of their parent(s)?
Dear Lord has society changed. When my mom/dad gave me a direct
command, I followed it, I didn't argue about it incessantly.
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