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NoStop
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Sun May 15, 2005 6:09 am Post subject:
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kurttrail wrote:
| Quote: | Seems you are incapable of not trolling for Linux! This is a Windows
peer to peer support group. If you'd like to advocate for Linux, you
can always troll to your hearts content at comp.os.linux.advocacy.
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"support group"??? Is that why you offer support like the following (and I'm
quoting one of your posts today) ...
". . . . until you went messing around into stuff you didn't understand,
and now you want someone to bail you out of your self-created mess."
.... and then suggested he reformat his hard drive and re-install XP, because
he screwed up his own system and that should teach him a lesson.
At least my postings try to help other computer users, not just demean them.
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kurttrail
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Sun May 15, 2005 6:24 am Post subject:
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NoStop wrote:
| Quote: | kurttrail wrote:
Seems you are incapable of not trolling for Linux! This is a Windows
peer to peer support group. If you'd like to advocate for Linux, you
can always troll to your hearts content at comp.os.linux.advocacy.
"support group"??? Is that why you offer support like the following
(and I'm quoting one of your posts today) ...
". . . . until you went messing around into stuff you didn't
understand, and now you want someone to bail you out of your
self-created mess."
... and then suggested he reformat his hard drive and re-install XP,
because he screwed up his own system and that should teach him a
lesson.
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Yep. Some people need negative reinforcement to learn from. Giving a
moron an easy fix to a problem he/she created on their own is just
enabling them to do some more stupid things with their computer.
| Quote: | At least my postings try to help other computer users,
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By getting them to switch their windows problems for linux problems.
And Linux advocacy posts belong in COLA.
| Quote: | not just
demean them.
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I didn't do it to demean. It's called tough love.
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Mark
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Sun May 15, 2005 6:26 am Post subject:
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In regards to the signature... its top posting because that is how OE6 defaults and its easier to just top post.
"NoStop" <nostop@stopspam.com> wrote in message news:ajxhe.1354077$Xk.268758@pd7tw3no...
kurttrail wrote:
| Quote: | Seems you are incapable of not trolling for Linux! This is a Windows
peer to peer support group. If you'd like to advocate for Linux, you
can always troll to your hearts content at comp.os.linux.advocacy.
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"support group"??? Is that why you offer support like the following (and I'm
quoting one of your posts today) ...
". . . . until you went messing around into stuff you didn't understand,
and now you want someone to bail you out of your self-created mess."
... and then suggested he reformat his hard drive and re-install XP, because
he screwed up his own system and that should teach him a lesson.
At least my postings try to help other computer users, not just demean them.
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Q. But isn't that backasswards?
A. If their reply comes BEFORE what they are quoting, they probably use
Outlook Express under Windoze.
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kurttrail
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Sun May 15, 2005 7:57 am Post subject:
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Mark wrote:
| Quote: | In regards to the signature... its top posting because that is how
OE6 defaults and its easier to just top post.
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LOL! That is just a lame excuse.
Many people that use OE don't top post, though I don't have a problem
with those people that top post out of personal choice.
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Kevin Brunt (Fat B@stard)
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Sun May 15, 2005 8:00 am Post subject:
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The main problem of using non microsoft products is that you don't get many pirated software! PERIOD
Kev
NoStop wrote:
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Mark wrote:
Diagnosing and troubleshooting problems in Windows is such a chore now of
days.
Then I guess it's time that you investigate an alternative to Windoze.
Personally, I'd recommend GNU/Linux. It's allowed me to get away from the
Windoze BS and on to a real secure, functional, FREE and fun to use OS that
has 100x's the power of Windoze.
Checkout Mandriva or SuSE for a couple of real easy to install and very
user-friendly Linux distributions.
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Q. But isn't that backasswards?
A. If their reply comes BEFORE what they are quoting, they probably use
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kurttrail
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Sun May 15, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject:
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Mark wrote:
| Quote: | What I experienced in the past is that selecting quoting positions
the cursor below the quoted text without the mess of signatures and
other quoted text that retains in a replied message.
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OE quotefix can position the cursor at the bottom of the post.
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Mark
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Sun May 15, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
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Not an excuse, it just works better that way. If OE allowed you to highlight the portion of the e-mail you wanted to quote, which you can do in ancient Forte, Inc. Agent, that would help.
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message news:elhnnrUWFHA.628@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Rick "Nutcase" Rogers wrote:
| Quote: | Mark was basically saying he top posts because OE makes it easier to
top post.
It does do that, and I know of many who have asked for an added
function to at least give the end-user an option to decide which it
does. That's one thing I like about my Linux newsreader, as I can
quickly change the default position depending on what group I'm in.
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It is just an excuse. Basically saying the devil makes him do it.
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kurttrail
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Sun May 15, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
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Mark wrote:
| Quote: | "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
message news:elhnnrUWFHA.628@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Rick "Nutcase" Rogers wrote:
Mark was basically saying he top posts because OE makes it
easier to
top post.
It does do that, and I know of many who have asked for an added
function to at least give the end-user an option to decide which
it
does. That's one thing I like about my Linux newsreader, as I can
quickly change the default position depending on what group I'm
in.
It is just an excuse. Basically saying the devil makes him do it.
Not an excuse, it just works better that way. If OE allowed you to
highlight the portion of the e-mail you wanted to quote, which you
can do in ancient Forte, Inc. Agent, that would help.
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What does selective quoting have to do with you excuse for top-posting?
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Mark
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Sun May 15, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
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What I experienced in the past is that selecting quoting positions the cursor below the quoted text without the mess of signatures and other quoted text that retains in a replied message.
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message news:ezgCQhVWFHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Mark wrote:
| Quote: | "kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in
message news:elhnnrUWFHA.628@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Rick "Nutcase" Rogers wrote:
Mark was basically saying he top posts because OE makes it
easier to
top post.
It does do that, and I know of many who have asked for an added
function to at least give the end-user an option to decide which
it
does. That's one thing I like about my Linux newsreader, as I can
quickly change the default position depending on what group I'm
in.
It is just an excuse. Basically saying the devil makes him do it.
Not an excuse, it just works better that way. If OE allowed you to
highlight the portion of the e-mail you wanted to quote, which you
can do in ancient Forte, Inc. Agent, that would help.
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What does selective quoting have to do with you excuse for top-posting?
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Mark
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Sun May 15, 2005 11:53 pm Post subject:
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Top posted message are easier to read with no scrolling unless its a long message that requires scrolling. I used to in-context and bottom post messages, but many others that I communicated with simply top posted and it is now a normal conformity.
I tried OE Quotefix some time ago, probably over a year ago, and I did not care much for it from crashing OE6 quite a bit.
"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknowuniverse.org> wrote in message news:uZuaIEXWFHA.1040@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Mark wrote:
| Quote: | Its called Trustworthy Computing.
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
| Quote: | Less add-ons and plug-ins
installed, less susceptible Windows to more infections, problems,
etc.
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Have you actually tried OE Quotefix, or are you applying a
generalization to something without any specific knowledge of it?
Again, it is just another excuse to top post. I'd respect you more, if,
like Rick, you had a real reason why you thought top posting was better.
All you have given are excuses why you feel you have no choice but to
top post.
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Leythos
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Mon May 16, 2005 12:17 am Post subject:
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In article <uOurz9XWFHA.2960@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>, xpmark@hotmail.com
says...
| Quote: | Top posted message are easier to read with no scrolling unless its a long message that requires scrolling. I used to in-context and bottom post messages, but many others that I communicated with simply top posted and it is now a normal conformity.
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And your OE does not properly post lines so that real newsreaders can
handle them. Top posting has ALWAYS been a problem. Since MS entered
Usenet with crappy tools and then Windows users hit the masses with
Intenret access we've had to deal with top posting people that still
have no clue or respect for the proper methods.
| Quote: | I tried OE Quotefix some time ago, probably over a year ago, and I did not care much for it from crashing OE6 quite a bit.
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OE is really a crappy Usenet client, there are many free clients that do
a much better (and more secure) job and don't have any of the issues
that OE does. Look at SuperGravity, it's free, so is PAN and many
others. If you spend any time on Usenet it will be well worth the
install time.
I'm not picking on you in this post, it's not intended as that, but it
is annoying that MS didn't create a proper Usenet client following the
standards when they started noticing the internet.
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kurttrail
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Mon May 16, 2005 12:26 am Post subject:
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Mark wrote:
| Quote: | Top posted message are easier to read with no scrolling unless its a
long message that requires scrolling. I used to in-context and
bottom post messages, but many others that I communicated with simply
top posted and it is now a normal conformity.
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That is worse than an excuse, you top post out of conformity!
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I tried OE Quotefix some time ago, probably over a year ago, and I
did not care much for it from crashing OE6 quite a bit.
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Never saw it crash OE. You probably had other problems.
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NoStop
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Mon May 16, 2005 12:26 am Post subject:
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Leythos wrote:
| Quote: | OE is really a crappy Usenet client, there are many free clients that do
a much better (and more secure) job and don't have any of the issues
that OE does. Look at SuperGravity, it's free, so is PAN and many
others. If you spend any time on Usenet it will be well worth the
install time.
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As I've said before - M$ users are forced to march to a different drum beat
- one created and orchestrated by M$ and one that purposely breaks the
standards. It is only by breaking standards that M$ can keep its users
locked into the M$ marketing machine and keep users dependent and paying
for M$ next "solution" or "innovation".
http://www.euronet.nl/users/frankvw/rants/microsoft/IhateMS_3.html
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CS
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Mon May 16, 2005 12:26 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 08:31:29 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
<rick@mvps.org> wrote:
| Quote: | It does do that, and I know of many who have asked for an added function to
at least give the end-user an option to decide which it does. That's one
thing I like about my Linux newsreader, as I can quickly change the default
position depending on what group I'm in.
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Rick:
If I may ask - which newsreader do you prefer when using Linux?
Currently when in Linux I'm using PAN. (Sorry about the OT.)
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kurttrail
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Mon May 16, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
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Steve N. wrote:
| Quote: | kurttrail wrote:
Mark wrote:
You have to contact M$ to get the hotfix, so it may be free, but not
hassle-free.
And if you have an OEM copy of XP they will pawn you off on the OEM
that supplied you withXP to get the Hotfix, and calling them up,
they'll send you back to MS.
I've never had a problem getting a hotfix from MS for an OEM OS but I
haven't done it in quite a while. Are you speaking from experience?
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Nope, just from what others have reported.
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