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John Barrett
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 Posted:
Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:29 am Post subject:
XPe over PXE reboots after FBA |
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I've setup an image using TD and the Windows Terminal template, and created
an SDI as directed using SDILoader and SDIMgr... SDI downloads fine and
launches to the FBA. FBA seems to run to completion based on logs in other
posts (Rewriting the system hives), but then immediatly reboots.
I have no way to run TA/TAP on the target hardware, nor to start up the
machine with WinPE (no floppy, no CD) (Is there a way to setup WinPE in an
SDI so I can run TAP on the target hardware ??)
Can someone explain why its rebooting and what I might be able to change in
the TD settings to prevent it ??
I am not using any custom drivers, everything is stock out of the XPe SP1
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Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:17 am Post subject:
Re: XPe over PXE reboots after FBA |
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Hi John,
If you want your PXE to work then you must pass FBA phase on HDD :-(
Then use that post FBA image and place it in SDI file.
For some of us TAP results are not required since we can make it work from a head by only knowing hardware platform. But at the end
you always need to pass FBA on target machine.
For start you can use Minlogon or Winlogon Macro templates from TD components. They will bring you generic hardware support requred
for your image to work. Just add ramdisk and pass FBA on any hardware platfrom that you an put HDD in. (It even does not have to be
similar to the taqrget one). Then make SDI image and do the remote boot.
Regards,
Slobodan
PS:
You have TA.exe for DOS.
"John Barrett" <ke5crp@comcast.net> wrote in message news:AI-dnTzOKoCR0FfcRVn-jw@comcast.com...
| Quote: | I've setup an image using TD and the Windows Terminal template, and created
an SDI as directed using SDILoader and SDIMgr... SDI downloads fine and
launches to the FBA. FBA seems to run to completion based on logs in other
posts (Rewriting the system hives), but then immediatly reboots.
I have no way to run TA/TAP on the target hardware, nor to start up the
machine with WinPE (no floppy, no CD) (Is there a way to setup WinPE in an
SDI so I can run TAP on the target hardware ??)
Can someone explain why its rebooting and what I might be able to change in
the TD settings to prevent it ??
I am not using any custom drivers, everything is stock out of the XPe SP1
package
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John Barrett
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:36 am Post subject:
Re: XPe over PXE reboots after FBA |
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The target machine is a badly damaged laptop -- no functional CD or Floppy
drive -- so cant even boot DOS on it
I've tried getting a bootable OS on the laptop HD but XP makes that
difficult.. will see what I can do about making an SDI that has already
passed FBA as that will be highly useful when it comes time to apply what
I'm learning to the systems at the office :)
Will get back when I've tried this out :)
"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> wrote in message
news:OXMKqaL6EHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Hi John,
If you want your PXE to work then you must pass FBA phase on HDD :-(
Then use that post FBA image and place it in SDI file.
For some of us TAP results are not required since we can make it work from
a head by only knowing hardware platform. But at the end
you always need to pass FBA on target machine.
For start you can use Minlogon or Winlogon Macro templates from TD
components. They will bring you generic hardware support requred
for your image to work. Just add ramdisk and pass FBA on any hardware
platfrom that you an put HDD in. (It even does not have to be
similar to the taqrget one). Then make SDI image and do the remote boot.
Regards,
Slobodan
PS:
You have TA.exe for DOS.
"John Barrett" <ke5crp@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:AI-dnTzOKoCR0FfcRVn-jw@comcast.com...
I've setup an image using TD and the Windows Terminal template, and
created
an SDI as directed using SDILoader and SDIMgr... SDI downloads fine and
launches to the FBA. FBA seems to run to completion based on logs in
other
posts (Rewriting the system hives), but then immediatly reboots.
I have no way to run TA/TAP on the target hardware, nor to start up the
machine with WinPE (no floppy, no CD) (Is there a way to setup WinPE in
an
SDI so I can run TAP on the target hardware ??)
Can someone explain why its rebooting and what I might be able to change
in
the TD settings to prevent it ??
I am not using any custom drivers, everything is stock out of the XPe SP1
package
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Sankar
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:37 am Post subject:
RE: XPe over PXE reboots after FBA |
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John,
| Quote: | I've setup an image using TD and the Windows Terminal template, and created
an SDI as directed using SDILoader and SDIMgr... SDI downloads fine and
launches to the FBA. FBA seems to run to completion based on logs in other
posts (Rewriting the system hives), but then immediatly reboots.
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Do you mean that FBA is starting?!?! Ah.. You have to use Resealed image
(FBA completed upto Phase 12000) for your SDI Image not the Pre FBA image.
| Quote: | I have no way to run TA/TAP on the target hardware, nor to start up the
machine with WinPE (no floppy, no CD) (Is there a way to setup WinPE in an
SDI so I can run TAP on the target hardware ??)
Can someone explain why its rebooting and what I might be able to change in
the TD settings to prevent it ??
I am not using any custom drivers, everything is stock out of the XPe SP1
package
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KM
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:34 pm Post subject:
Re: XPe over PXE reboots after FBA |
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John,
You can boot DOS on your laptop over PXE. It won't take much time of yours if you have a RIS server around.
Get the links to 3COM DOS image from here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded/browse_thread/thread/9772561860579fc8/6fe63c3132851450?q=3COM+DOS&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmicrosoft.public.windowsxp.embedded%2Fsearch%3Fgroup%3Dmicrosoft.public.windowsxp.embedded%26q%3D3COM+DOS%26qt_g%3D1%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#6fe63c3132851450
KM
PS. Did we have some discussion about your broken laptop in this NG? Something is fleshing up in my memory.
| Quote: | The target machine is a badly damaged laptop -- no functional CD or Floppy drive -- so cant even boot DOS on it
I've tried getting a bootable OS on the laptop HD but XP makes that difficult.. will see what I can do about making an SDI that
has already passed FBA as that will be highly useful when it comes time to apply what I'm learning to the systems at the office :)
Will get back when I've tried this out :)
"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> wrote in message news:OXMKqaL6EHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Hi John,
If you want your PXE to work then you must pass FBA phase on HDD :-(
Then use that post FBA image and place it in SDI file.
For some of us TAP results are not required since we can make it work from a head by only knowing hardware platform. But at the
end
you always need to pass FBA on target machine.
For start you can use Minlogon or Winlogon Macro templates from TD components. They will bring you generic hardware support
requred
for your image to work. Just add ramdisk and pass FBA on any hardware platfrom that you an put HDD in. (It even does not have to
be
similar to the taqrget one). Then make SDI image and do the remote boot.
Regards,
Slobodan
PS:
You have TA.exe for DOS.
"John Barrett" <ke5crp@comcast.net> wrote in message news:AI-dnTzOKoCR0FfcRVn-jw@comcast.com...
I've setup an image using TD and the Windows Terminal template, and created
an SDI as directed using SDILoader and SDIMgr... SDI downloads fine and
launches to the FBA. FBA seems to run to completion based on logs in other
posts (Rewriting the system hives), but then immediatly reboots.
I have no way to run TA/TAP on the target hardware, nor to start up the
machine with WinPE (no floppy, no CD) (Is there a way to setup WinPE in an
SDI so I can run TAP on the target hardware ??)
Can someone explain why its rebooting and what I might be able to change in
the TD settings to prevent it ??
I am not using any custom drivers, everything is stock out of the XPe SP1
package
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John Barrett
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:56 pm Post subject:
Re: XPe over PXE reboots after FBA |
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Ya -- I was asking for a way to do WinPE over PXE a coupla weeks ago -- had
to break off to do other things and now back to working on XPe... got a
little further this time :)
New problem though !! Got a Winlogin setup booting from the laptop HD, but
there is nothing on the start menu even after I hand install shortcuts in
the administrator/startmenu folder... have also tried the All Users/Start
Menu folder.. no joy
also nothing if I put files or folders on the desktop
Standard Start Menu component does nothing that I can see either
Added task manager to the build, but right click on the task bar or
ctrl-alt-del wont bring it up
Any suggestions ??
KM -- running the XPe RBS.. no RIS servers at all, and since I've got XPe
booting now, will be going with making a sealed Winlogon SDI for inital
system setups
"KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23wqLUHM6EHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | John,
You can boot DOS on your laptop over PXE. It won't take much time of yours
if you have a RIS server around.
Get the links to 3COM DOS image from here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded/browse_thread/thread/9772561860579fc8/6fe63c3132851450?q=3COM+DOS&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmicrosoft.public.windowsxp.embedded%2Fsearch%3Fgroup%3Dmicrosoft.public.windowsxp.embedded%26q%3D3COM+DOS%26qt_g%3D1%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#6fe63c3132851450
KM
PS. Did we have some discussion about your broken laptop in this NG?
Something is fleshing up in my memory.
The target machine is a badly damaged laptop -- no functional CD or
Floppy drive -- so cant even boot DOS on it
I've tried getting a bootable OS on the laptop HD but XP makes that
difficult.. will see what I can do about making an SDI that has already
passed FBA as that will be highly useful when it comes time to apply what
I'm learning to the systems at the office :)
Will get back when I've tried this out :)
"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> wrote in message
news:OXMKqaL6EHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Hi John,
If you want your PXE to work then you must pass FBA phase on HDD :-(
Then use that post FBA image and place it in SDI file.
For some of us TAP results are not required since we can make it work
from a head by only knowing hardware platform. But at the end
you always need to pass FBA on target machine.
For start you can use Minlogon or Winlogon Macro templates from TD
components. They will bring you generic hardware support requred
for your image to work. Just add ramdisk and pass FBA on any hardware
platfrom that you an put HDD in. (It even does not have to be
similar to the taqrget one). Then make SDI image and do the remote boot.
Regards,
Slobodan
PS:
You have TA.exe for DOS.
"John Barrett" <ke5crp@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:AI-dnTzOKoCR0FfcRVn-jw@comcast.com...
I've setup an image using TD and the Windows Terminal template, and
created
an SDI as directed using SDILoader and SDIMgr... SDI downloads fine and
launches to the FBA. FBA seems to run to completion based on logs in
other
posts (Rewriting the system hives), but then immediatly reboots.
I have no way to run TA/TAP on the target hardware, nor to start up the
machine with WinPE (no floppy, no CD) (Is there a way to setup WinPE in
an
SDI so I can run TAP on the target hardware ??)
Can someone explain why its rebooting and what I might be able to
change in
the TD settings to prevent it ??
I am not using any custom drivers, everything is stock out of the XPe
SP1
package
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KM
Guest
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:39 pm Post subject:
Re: XPe over PXE reboots after FBA |
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John,
Glad to here you are getting some progress there.
Please change the settings of "User Interface Core" component to tweak UI.
Btw, don't know what kind of image you are trying to build but if it is something close to XP Pro, take a lok at the XPProEmulation
project on www.xpefiles.com (Development Utilities/Main).
KM
| Quote: | Ya -- I was asking for a way to do WinPE over PXE a coupla weeks ago -- had to break off to do other things and now back to
working on XPe... got a little further this time :)
New problem though !! Got a Winlogin setup booting from the laptop HD, but there is nothing on the start menu even after I hand
install shortcuts in the administrator/startmenu folder... have also tried the All Users/Start Menu folder.. no joy
also nothing if I put files or folders on the desktop
Standard Start Menu component does nothing that I can see either
Added task manager to the build, but right click on the task bar or ctrl-alt-del wont bring it up
Any suggestions ??
KM -- running the XPe RBS.. no RIS servers at all, and since I've got XPe booting now, will be going with making a sealed Winlogon
SDI for inital system setups
"KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%23wqLUHM6EHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
John,
You can boot DOS on your laptop over PXE. It won't take much time of yours if you have a RIS server around.
Get the links to 3COM DOS image from here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded/browse_thread/thread/9772561860579fc8/6fe63c3132851450?q=3COM+DOS&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmicrosoft.public.windowsxp.embedded%2Fsearch%3Fgroup%3Dmicrosoft.public.windowsxp.embedded%26q%3D3COM+DOS%26qt_g%3D1%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#6fe63c3132851450
KM
PS. Did we have some discussion about your broken laptop in this NG? Something is fleshing up in my memory.
The target machine is a badly damaged laptop -- no functional CD or Floppy drive -- so cant even boot DOS on it
I've tried getting a bootable OS on the laptop HD but XP makes that difficult.. will see what I can do about making an SDI that
has already passed FBA as that will be highly useful when it comes time to apply what I'm learning to the systems at the office
:)
Will get back when I've tried this out :)
"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> wrote in message news:OXMKqaL6EHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Hi John,
If you want your PXE to work then you must pass FBA phase on HDD :-(
Then use that post FBA image and place it in SDI file.
For some of us TAP results are not required since we can make it work from a head by only knowing hardware platform. But at the
end
you always need to pass FBA on target machine.
For start you can use Minlogon or Winlogon Macro templates from TD components. They will bring you generic hardware support
requred
for your image to work. Just add ramdisk and pass FBA on any hardware platfrom that you an put HDD in. (It even does not have
to be
similar to the taqrget one). Then make SDI image and do the remote boot.
Regards,
Slobodan
PS:
You have TA.exe for DOS.
"John Barrett" <ke5crp@comcast.net> wrote in message news:AI-dnTzOKoCR0FfcRVn-jw@comcast.com...
I've setup an image using TD and the Windows Terminal template, and created
an SDI as directed using SDILoader and SDIMgr... SDI downloads fine and
launches to the FBA. FBA seems to run to completion based on logs in other
posts (Rewriting the system hives), but then immediatly reboots.
I have no way to run TA/TAP on the target hardware, nor to start up the
machine with WinPE (no floppy, no CD) (Is there a way to setup WinPE in an
SDI so I can run TAP on the target hardware ??)
Can someone explain why its rebooting and what I might be able to change in
the TD settings to prevent it ??
I am not using any custom drivers, everything is stock out of the XPe SP1
package
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John Barrett
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:55 pm Post subject:
Re: XPe over PXE reboots after FBA |
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I got it all working enough to start an XPPro install on the machine -- its
running the SP2 update now :)
and I've created a resealed winlogon SDI that I'll test a little later for
working with other crippled hardware
Thanks for all the help !!
"KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u3a$nZR6EHA.2608@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | John,
Glad to here you are getting some progress there.
Please change the settings of "User Interface Core" component to tweak UI.
Btw, don't know what kind of image you are trying to build but if it is
something close to XP Pro, take a lok at the XPProEmulation project on
www.xpefiles.com (Development Utilities/Main).
KM
Ya -- I was asking for a way to do WinPE over PXE a coupla weeks ago --
had to break off to do other things and now back to working on XPe... got
a little further this time :)
New problem though !! Got a Winlogin setup booting from the laptop HD,
but there is nothing on the start menu even after I hand install
shortcuts in the administrator/startmenu folder... have also tried the
All Users/Start Menu folder.. no joy
also nothing if I put files or folders on the desktop
Standard Start Menu component does nothing that I can see either
Added task manager to the build, but right click on the task bar or
ctrl-alt-del wont bring it up
Any suggestions ??
KM -- running the XPe RBS.. no RIS servers at all, and since I've got XPe
booting now, will be going with making a sealed Winlogon SDI for inital
system setups
"KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23wqLUHM6EHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
John,
You can boot DOS on your laptop over PXE. It won't take much time of
yours if you have a RIS server around.
Get the links to 3COM DOS image from here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded/browse_thread/thread/9772561860579fc8/6fe63c3132851450?q=3COM+DOS&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmicrosoft.public.windowsxp.embedded%2Fsearch%3Fgroup%3Dmicrosoft.public.windowsxp.embedded%26q%3D3COM+DOS%26qt_g%3D1%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#6fe63c3132851450
KM
PS. Did we have some discussion about your broken laptop in this NG?
Something is fleshing up in my memory.
The target machine is a badly damaged laptop -- no functional CD or
Floppy drive -- so cant even boot DOS on it
I've tried getting a bootable OS on the laptop HD but XP makes that
difficult.. will see what I can do about making an SDI that has already
passed FBA as that will be highly useful when it comes time to apply
what I'm learning to the systems at the office :)
Will get back when I've tried this out :)
"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> wrote in message
news:OXMKqaL6EHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Hi John,
If you want your PXE to work then you must pass FBA phase on HDD :-(
Then use that post FBA image and place it in SDI file.
For some of us TAP results are not required since we can make it work
from a head by only knowing hardware platform. But at the end
you always need to pass FBA on target machine.
For start you can use Minlogon or Winlogon Macro templates from TD
components. They will bring you generic hardware support requred
for your image to work. Just add ramdisk and pass FBA on any hardware
platfrom that you an put HDD in. (It even does not have to be
similar to the taqrget one). Then make SDI image and do the remote
boot.
Regards,
Slobodan
PS:
You have TA.exe for DOS.
"John Barrett" <ke5crp@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:AI-dnTzOKoCR0FfcRVn-jw@comcast.com...
I've setup an image using TD and the Windows Terminal template, and
created
an SDI as directed using SDILoader and SDIMgr... SDI downloads fine
and
launches to the FBA. FBA seems to run to completion based on logs in
other
posts (Rewriting the system hives), but then immediatly reboots.
I have no way to run TA/TAP on the target hardware, nor to start up
the
machine with WinPE (no floppy, no CD) (Is there a way to setup WinPE
in an
SDI so I can run TAP on the target hardware ??)
Can someone explain why its rebooting and what I might be able to
change in
the TD settings to prevent it ??
I am not using any custom drivers, everything is stock out of the XPe
SP1
package
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