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Steven L Umbach
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

There should be an option to set it to disabled in the drop down box for
startup type. You should see three options - automatic, manual, and
disabled. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2BE8460C-3187-4BBE-A06B-93DEB476FDEF@microsoft.com...
Quote:
Steven,

The startup type shows manual for UPnP and SSDP Discovery Services. I do
not see how to disable it, I just see how to start and stop the service.
Can
you tell me how to disable? XP Pro SP2.

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

What does the startup type show? It needs to be disabled and not just
stopped. If you leave it automatic it will start again after a system
reboot. Make sure you hit "apply" after changing it to disabled. ---
Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E9F5923A-29C8-4CDD-A55E-E8F979D81C20@microsoft.com...
When I disable SSDP Discovery Services and restart my system, the
status
changes back to "Started". How can I prevent this from happening?

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

If the device require UPnP then they may need to be enabled. You will
have
to read the documentation. I have both disabled on all my home
computers
with no problems. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7F3117C8-FDB3-49B1-A562-F79401FAE5D4@microsoft.com...
Hi Steven,

UPnP was not started but SSDP Discovery Service was started so I
stopped
that service. If I may ask you a question, do I need either of
these
services running if I want to run a home network or if I want to use
VOIP?


"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

Look at the configuration for the SSDP discovery service and the
Universal
plug and play device host services. Set them to disabled and stop
the
service if you do not need them. You can use services.msc to
see/manage
the
configuration of services and services can also be managed via
Group
Policy
computer configuration in an AD domain. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3656289E-C92A-4E9D-9046-87D42F42E4DA@microsoft.com...
I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play",
by
default
is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and
where
do
I
check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?

Darrell








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Darrell
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

David,

I thought I was disabling the service but in actuality I was only stopping
the service. I do not see an option on how to disable the service, can you
explain how to disable .

"David H. Lipman" wrote:

Quote:
From: "Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com

| When I disable SSDP Discovery Services and restart my system, the status
| changes back to "Started". How can I prevent this from happening?
|


Change the service to disabled.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


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Darrell
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

OK, I see it now. I right clicked the service and selected properties and I
now see the option to disable. Thnx for your help.

Darrell

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

Quote:
There should be an option to set it to disabled in the drop down box for
startup type. You should see three options - automatic, manual, and
disabled. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2BE8460C-3187-4BBE-A06B-93DEB476FDEF@microsoft.com...
Steven,

The startup type shows manual for UPnP and SSDP Discovery Services. I do
not see how to disable it, I just see how to start and stop the service.
Can
you tell me how to disable? XP Pro SP2.

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

What does the startup type show? It needs to be disabled and not just
stopped. If you leave it automatic it will start again after a system
reboot. Make sure you hit "apply" after changing it to disabled. ---
Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E9F5923A-29C8-4CDD-A55E-E8F979D81C20@microsoft.com...
When I disable SSDP Discovery Services and restart my system, the
status
changes back to "Started". How can I prevent this from happening?

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

If the device require UPnP then they may need to be enabled. You will
have
to read the documentation. I have both disabled on all my home
computers
with no problems. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7F3117C8-FDB3-49B1-A562-F79401FAE5D4@microsoft.com...
Hi Steven,

UPnP was not started but SSDP Discovery Service was started so I
stopped
that service. If I may ask you a question, do I need either of
these
services running if I want to run a home network or if I want to use
VOIP?


"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

Look at the configuration for the SSDP discovery service and the
Universal
plug and play device host services. Set them to disabled and stop
the
service if you do not need them. You can use services.msc to
see/manage
the
configuration of services and services can also be managed via
Group
Policy
computer configuration in an AD domain. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3656289E-C92A-4E9D-9046-87D42F42E4DA@microsoft.com...
I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play",
by
default
is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and
where
do
I
check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?

Darrell











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Steven L Umbach
Guest





Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

You probably do not need it even if you are on a network. --- Steve


"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:eVQf1dZ5FHA.268@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Quote:
If you do not have a network, you do not need it running, disable it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128020314/http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm#Universal_Plug_and_Play_Device_Host

http://snakefoot.fateback.com/tweak/winnt/service/stuv.html#UPNPHOST

http://www.theeldergeek.com/universal_plug_and_play_device_host.htm

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:813CE255-B0B1-4306-B3D3-3BE9597C324C@microsoft.com,
Lew <Lew@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
Actually, what is the current thinking on disabling uPnP? Steve Gibson
(www.grc.com) vehemently insists that it should be turned off. But I've
seen a number of criticisms of Steve's "security expertise." Apparently,
the FBI used to receommend turning uPNP off but no longer does so.

Is there a consensus here?

"Darrell" wrote:

I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by
default is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How
and where do I check to see the current state of my systems UPnP
services?

Darrell
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Steven L Umbach
Guest





Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

What does the startup type show? It needs to be disabled and not just
stopped. If you leave it automatic it will start again after a system
reboot. Make sure you hit "apply" after changing it to disabled. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E9F5923A-29C8-4CDD-A55E-E8F979D81C20@microsoft.com...
Quote:
When I disable SSDP Discovery Services and restart my system, the status
changes back to "Started". How can I prevent this from happening?

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

If the device require UPnP then they may need to be enabled. You will
have
to read the documentation. I have both disabled on all my home computers
with no problems. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7F3117C8-FDB3-49B1-A562-F79401FAE5D4@microsoft.com...
Hi Steven,

UPnP was not started but SSDP Discovery Service was started so I
stopped
that service. If I may ask you a question, do I need either of these
services running if I want to run a home network or if I want to use
VOIP?


"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

Look at the configuration for the SSDP discovery service and the
Universal
plug and play device host services. Set them to disabled and stop the
service if you do not need them. You can use services.msc to
see/manage
the
configuration of services and services can also be managed via Group
Policy
computer configuration in an AD domain. --- Steve


"Darrell" <Darrell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3656289E-C92A-4E9D-9046-87D42F42E4DA@microsoft.com...
I became aware that UPnP, not to be confused with "Plug N Play", by
default
is enabled on Windows XP systems and should be disabled. How and
where
do
I
check to see the current state of my systems UPnP services?

Darrell





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David H. Lipman
Guest





Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net>

| And you can often work around such without using UPnP and all the noise it
| creates on the network. --- Steve


Noise ?

Hardly.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
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Tom S
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

Yes, noise. That bugger yaps constantly trying to find every other UPnP
device on it's subnet. We finally turned off logging port 1900 traffic
because you couldn't see anything else!


"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:u%23FxtEg5FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Quote:
From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net

| And you can often work around such without using UPnP and all the noise
it
| creates on the network. --- Steve


Noise ?

Hardly.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

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Lew
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Universal Plug n Play or UPnP Reply with quote

According to the resident MVP in the windowsxp.messenger group, it's almost
(if not completely) impossible to initiate a file transfer using Windows
Messenger from behind a non-uPnP NAT router. Apparently the latest versions
of MSN Messenger are better than Windows Messenger at dealing with this, but
MSN Messenger has its own problems.

Messenger (Windows or MSN) seems to be the best solution for transferring
large files over the Internet, short of setting up your own FTP server. It
doesn't have the file size limitations imposed by many ISPs on email
attachments. I don't do this often, but when I want to, I want it to work.
I guess I'll just enable uPnP when needed and turn it back off when done.

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

Quote:
And you can often work around such without using UPnP and all the noise it
creates on the network. --- Steve


"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:euTOvia5FHA.2628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@n0-spam-for-me-comcast.net

| You probably do not need it even if you are on a network. --- Steve
|

Not true. There are many software applications and hardware appliances
that use uPnP to
setup a uPnP compliant NAT device to properly open and/or forward needed
TCP and/or UDP
ports for proper communication.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm




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