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JW
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:28 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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If you check your TV user manual it should state what resolution it will
accept over its DVI interface. Many TVs only accept 480i, 480p, 720p or
10880i over DVI or HDMI however the SXRD may accept 1080p over HDMI since
some TVs now are using 2nd generation HDMI receiver chips which accept
1080p. In any case the overscan is being performed by your TV when using
the HDMI interface since it is emulatin a standard CRT TV which has
overscanned all input for the last 50 years to avoid problems at the picture
borders. With Recent Catalyste drivers you can apply overscan compensation
which will underscan the output so that when it is overscanned by the TV all
of the image will get displayed.
The card that TriggerFinger linked to has a DVI-I connector not a HDMI
connector on it. however I didn't see any indication that there is a DVI-I
to VGA or DVI to Component adapter avialble for that card which would meant
that the extra four pins are not actually being used.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AA373415-769E-472E-BFC5-1CA0D6AFD3E9@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Sorry, I probably didn't explain everything about my video card. It is a
Radeon 9800 with DVI out. I used ATI's DVI to component adaptor with my
last
TV to view Media Center. This overscanned badly but at least took up the
whole screen (27" HD Samsung CRT). Currently I'm not using the DVI out,
just
the VGA/SXGA, but I thought if I get nowhere this evening I might use my
DVI
to HDMI cable to connect to the TV instead of the VGA/SXGA
I bought this Sony SXRD TV (their version of LCoS) especially because of
the
PC input. The native resolution is 1920 x 1080p, I'm assuming at 60Hz
refresh
rate. They suggested setting my computer to that resolution, but all that
does is give me underscan and the TV displays a message stating "Out of
Range" even though it still shows the desktop. This resolution also
appears
smaller and squarish becasue I cannot use "Full" mode to stretch the
picture
horizontally (presumably due to the "out of range" error).
Currently, the biggest picture I get is when I set resolution to to 1024
by
768. This gives me the 42" or so rectangle in the middle with Full 2 mode.
Full 1 and Standard mode are both narrower, the Standard mode just a 30"
or
so square in the middle, Full 1 being a smaller rectangle.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
HDMI= HIGH DEFINITION MULTI-MEDIA INTERFACE
VGA = Video Graphics Array (resolution of 640 x 480)
Its not an option you can click on, these are 2 totally different
connectors. You need the hardware, the actual connector has to be on the
back
of you computer. If you have a HDMI connector on the back of your
computer,
then you computer is capable of sending HIGH DEFINITION video to your
monitor.
Look at the link i sent you, from tigerdirect. Look at the video card.
It has a vga and a HDMI connector. I think it my even have an S-Video
connector on it. You have to have these connectors on the back. If you do
than you have this option, if not. Then you need a video card that is
similar
to the one i sent you on the link...
Keep us updated
"John M" wrote:
Thanks again for the great information. I will make sure I look at this
when
I try again this evening.
A couple of more notes: The manual for my TV says that SXGA will be
displayed with the top and bottom cut off in Standard display mode and
at a
smaller size in "Full 1" or "Full 2" mode, which is basically what I am
seeing except Standard picture mode doesn't display the whole image
either.
It is probably the 4:3 display you mentioned.
Secondly, I guess if this option does not work at all, I could try
using my
other HDMI port on the TV to go from DVI to HDMI. Would this also be
SXGA? I
really don't understand how I could tell if my computer is sending SXGA
or
VGA or whatever. i thought that was a function of the monitor?
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
ok, I think you misunderstood me about the video card...
Your computer my have onboard video wich if this is the case, the vga
connector (were you connect your monitor) would be around were you
plug in
your mouse and keyboard area...
The other option, if you have a video card, it would be mounted
Horizontal
near the lower middle of the back of the computer...
The last other option would be a PCI slot, and this would be on the
bottom
like 4 or so slots on the computer..
Anyhow, if the vga connector is in the lower middle to lower part of
your
computer odds are, you have a video card and not onboard...
The card should look like this one,,,This is an example of one.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086157&CatId=0
ok, you see the vga and DVI output....ok
the other thing if you have a video card, make sure the onboard video
is
disabled, and the video card is enabled and with the newest drivers.
You can disable your onboard video, "once you know wich one it is" by
going
to start, right click on my computer, then going to properties
then click the hardware tab and then device manager..
Look for your ati display. If you see two video... find the onboard
one.
rightt click and disable it..
Anyhow make sure you look at the link to the video card, because it
has a
picture of the dvi and vga. the adapter would convert the dvi to vga
so you
can use a computer monitor.. Also these types of cards can control
two
monitors.Wich might be what your looking for..
anyhow Good luck.
"JW" wrote:
Be sure you check with ATI to make sure that your Radeon card has a
DVI-I
connector on it that has VGA output on the extra 4 pins for a DVI-I
to VGA
connector sinnce only a few of the ATI cards have this capibility.
It sounds like you are outputting a 4:3 letterbox signal from your
PC to
your Sony system and that is why you see borders on all sides. The
top and
bottom borders being due to the letterbox output and the side
borders due to
the 4:3 output.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79F185DB-4ECF-4E60-843E-6CF700F1A193@microsoft.com...
That's an interesting idea. You're saying the VGA might be
connected to my
internal graphics card instead of my Radeon? That may be true. So
I guess
I
need to buy or "try" a DVI to VGA adapter and see how that looks.
I hope it works because I just talked to Sony and they tell me
I'm stuck
with my 42" box of screen sitting inside my 50" Tv with black all
around.
This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't want to use this to watch
movies and
TV
with Media Center.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
I have another thought, It might be in that your using onboard
video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent
video card
with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector on
it. Hook
up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter to
convert
to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If not
you can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer
cant handle
the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC
input. I
was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem
is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with
black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not
using.
I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the
viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand
to fit
my 50"
screen?
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JW
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:28 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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I just realized that what you are thinking will not work the way you think
it will. If your DVI connector supports a VGA adapter it is not converting
the DVI signal to VGA it is sending out a VGA signal that is identical to
the one it sends out through the VGA port so you are still limited to the 2
resolutions that your TV supports over VGA and even it did convert the DVI
to VGA you also would still be restircted to the 2 VGA inputs on the TV.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F3C70C6E-E1D6-4D3B-944B-A046F15A3BAB@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Ok, so I've got a couple of options then for this evening: Try DVI to SXGA
with an adaptor or look in the manual about resolutions accepted through
the
HDMI port on the TV. I guess if I really had to I could use the component
adaptor as well, but I would rather not take up a component input (or HDMI
for that matter) when I have an input specifically made for a PC. That's
why
it's so frustrating that it can't take up the whole screen, since it was
designed for a PC. The Sony guy implied that the TV was only meant to show
that smaller size. That seems odd to me.
"JW" wrote:
If you check your TV user manual it should state what resolution it will
accept over its DVI interface. Many TVs only accept 480i, 480p, 720p or
10880i over DVI or HDMI however the SXRD may accept 1080p over HDMI since
some TVs now are using 2nd generation HDMI receiver chips which accept
1080p. In any case the overscan is being performed by your TV when using
the HDMI interface since it is emulatin a standard CRT TV which has
overscanned all input for the last 50 years to avoid problems at the
picture
borders. With Recent Catalyste drivers you can apply overscan
compensation
which will underscan the output so that when it is overscanned by the TV
all
of the image will get displayed.
The card that TriggerFinger linked to has a DVI-I connector not a HDMI
connector on it. however I didn't see any indication that there is a
DVI-I
to VGA or DVI to Component adapter avialble for that card which would
meant
that the extra four pins are not actually being used.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AA373415-769E-472E-BFC5-1CA0D6AFD3E9@microsoft.com...
Sorry, I probably didn't explain everything about my video card. It is
a
Radeon 9800 with DVI out. I used ATI's DVI to component adaptor with my
last
TV to view Media Center. This overscanned badly but at least took up
the
whole screen (27" HD Samsung CRT). Currently I'm not using the DVI out,
just
the VGA/SXGA, but I thought if I get nowhere this evening I might use
my
DVI
to HDMI cable to connect to the TV instead of the VGA/SXGA
I bought this Sony SXRD TV (their version of LCoS) especially because
of
the
PC input. The native resolution is 1920 x 1080p, I'm assuming at 60Hz
refresh
rate. They suggested setting my computer to that resolution, but all
that
does is give me underscan and the TV displays a message stating "Out of
Range" even though it still shows the desktop. This resolution also
appears
smaller and squarish becasue I cannot use "Full" mode to stretch the
picture
horizontally (presumably due to the "out of range" error).
Currently, the biggest picture I get is when I set resolution to to
1024
by
768. This gives me the 42" or so rectangle in the middle with Full 2
mode.
Full 1 and Standard mode are both narrower, the Standard mode just a
30"
or
so square in the middle, Full 1 being a smaller rectangle.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
HDMI= HIGH DEFINITION MULTI-MEDIA INTERFACE
VGA = Video Graphics Array (resolution of 640 x 480)
Its not an option you can click on, these are 2 totally different
connectors. You need the hardware, the actual connector has to be on
the
back
of you computer. If you have a HDMI connector on the back of your
computer,
then you computer is capable of sending HIGH DEFINITION video to your
monitor.
Look at the link i sent you, from tigerdirect. Look at the video card.
It has a vga and a HDMI connector. I think it my even have an S-Video
connector on it. You have to have these connectors on the back. If you
do
than you have this option, if not. Then you need a video card that is
similar
to the one i sent you on the link...
Keep us updated
"John M" wrote:
Thanks again for the great information. I will make sure I look at
this
when
I try again this evening.
A couple of more notes: The manual for my TV says that SXGA will be
displayed with the top and bottom cut off in Standard display mode
and
at a
smaller size in "Full 1" or "Full 2" mode, which is basically what I
am
seeing except Standard picture mode doesn't display the whole image
either.
It is probably the 4:3 display you mentioned.
Secondly, I guess if this option does not work at all, I could try
using my
other HDMI port on the TV to go from DVI to HDMI. Would this also be
SXGA? I
really don't understand how I could tell if my computer is sending
SXGA
or
VGA or whatever. i thought that was a function of the monitor?
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
ok, I think you misunderstood me about the video card...
Your computer my have onboard video wich if this is the case, the
vga
connector (were you connect your monitor) would be around were you
plug in
your mouse and keyboard area...
The other option, if you have a video card, it would be mounted
Horizontal
near the lower middle of the back of the computer...
The last other option would be a PCI slot, and this would be on
the
bottom
like 4 or so slots on the computer..
Anyhow, if the vga connector is in the lower middle to lower part
of
your
computer odds are, you have a video card and not onboard...
The card should look like this one,,,This is an example of one.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086157&CatId=0
ok, you see the vga and DVI output....ok
the other thing if you have a video card, make sure the onboard
video
is
disabled, and the video card is enabled and with the newest
drivers.
You can disable your onboard video, "once you know wich one it is"
by
going
to start, right click on my computer, then going to properties
then click the hardware tab and then device manager..
Look for your ati display. If you see two video... find the
onboard
one.
rightt click and disable it..
Anyhow make sure you look at the link to the video card, because
it
has a
picture of the dvi and vga. the adapter would convert the dvi to
vga
so you
can use a computer monitor.. Also these types of cards can control
two
monitors.Wich might be what your looking for..
anyhow Good luck.
"JW" wrote:
Be sure you check with ATI to make sure that your Radeon card
has a
DVI-I
connector on it that has VGA output on the extra 4 pins for a
DVI-I
to VGA
connector sinnce only a few of the ATI cards have this
capibility.
It sounds like you are outputting a 4:3 letterbox signal from
your
PC to
your Sony system and that is why you see borders on all sides.
The
top and
bottom borders being due to the letterbox output and the side
borders due to
the 4:3 output.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79F185DB-4ECF-4E60-843E-6CF700F1A193@microsoft.com...
That's an interesting idea. You're saying the VGA might be
connected to my
internal graphics card instead of my Radeon? That may be true.
So
I guess
I
need to buy or "try" a DVI to VGA adapter and see how that
looks.
I hope it works because I just talked to Sony and they tell me
I'm stuck
with my 42" box of screen sitting inside my 50" Tv with black
all
around.
This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't want to use this to watch
movies and
TV
with Media Center.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
I have another thought, It might be in that your using
onboard
video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent
video card
with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector
on
it. Hook
up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter
to
convert
to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If
not
you can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer
cant handle
the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a
PC
input. I
was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The
problem
is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with
black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm
not
using.
I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the
viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image
expand
to fit
my 50"
screen?
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JW
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| Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:28 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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If your DVI- connector supports an adapter and if may not it is either a VGA
or a YprPb component adapter one DVI-I connector can only support one
protocol other than the DVI protocol itself.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F3C70C6E-E1D6-4D3B-944B-A046F15A3BAB@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Ok, so I've got a couple of options then for this evening: Try DVI to SXGA
with an adaptor or look in the manual about resolutions accepted through
the
HDMI port on the TV. I guess if I really had to I could use the component
adaptor as well, but I would rather not take up a component input (or HDMI
for that matter) when I have an input specifically made for a PC. That's
why
it's so frustrating that it can't take up the whole screen, since it was
designed for a PC. The Sony guy implied that the TV was only meant to show
that smaller size. That seems odd to me.
"JW" wrote:
If you check your TV user manual it should state what resolution it will
accept over its DVI interface. Many TVs only accept 480i, 480p, 720p or
10880i over DVI or HDMI however the SXRD may accept 1080p over HDMI since
some TVs now are using 2nd generation HDMI receiver chips which accept
1080p. In any case the overscan is being performed by your TV when using
the HDMI interface since it is emulatin a standard CRT TV which has
overscanned all input for the last 50 years to avoid problems at the
picture
borders. With Recent Catalyste drivers you can apply overscan
compensation
which will underscan the output so that when it is overscanned by the TV
all
of the image will get displayed.
The card that TriggerFinger linked to has a DVI-I connector not a HDMI
connector on it. however I didn't see any indication that there is a
DVI-I
to VGA or DVI to Component adapter avialble for that card which would
meant
that the extra four pins are not actually being used.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AA373415-769E-472E-BFC5-1CA0D6AFD3E9@microsoft.com...
Sorry, I probably didn't explain everything about my video card. It is
a
Radeon 9800 with DVI out. I used ATI's DVI to component adaptor with my
last
TV to view Media Center. This overscanned badly but at least took up
the
whole screen (27" HD Samsung CRT). Currently I'm not using the DVI out,
just
the VGA/SXGA, but I thought if I get nowhere this evening I might use
my
DVI
to HDMI cable to connect to the TV instead of the VGA/SXGA
I bought this Sony SXRD TV (their version of LCoS) especially because
of
the
PC input. The native resolution is 1920 x 1080p, I'm assuming at 60Hz
refresh
rate. They suggested setting my computer to that resolution, but all
that
does is give me underscan and the TV displays a message stating "Out of
Range" even though it still shows the desktop. This resolution also
appears
smaller and squarish becasue I cannot use "Full" mode to stretch the
picture
horizontally (presumably due to the "out of range" error).
Currently, the biggest picture I get is when I set resolution to to
1024
by
768. This gives me the 42" or so rectangle in the middle with Full 2
mode.
Full 1 and Standard mode are both narrower, the Standard mode just a
30"
or
so square in the middle, Full 1 being a smaller rectangle.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
HDMI= HIGH DEFINITION MULTI-MEDIA INTERFACE
VGA = Video Graphics Array (resolution of 640 x 480)
Its not an option you can click on, these are 2 totally different
connectors. You need the hardware, the actual connector has to be on
the
back
of you computer. If you have a HDMI connector on the back of your
computer,
then you computer is capable of sending HIGH DEFINITION video to your
monitor.
Look at the link i sent you, from tigerdirect. Look at the video card.
It has a vga and a HDMI connector. I think it my even have an S-Video
connector on it. You have to have these connectors on the back. If you
do
than you have this option, if not. Then you need a video card that is
similar
to the one i sent you on the link...
Keep us updated
"John M" wrote:
Thanks again for the great information. I will make sure I look at
this
when
I try again this evening.
A couple of more notes: The manual for my TV says that SXGA will be
displayed with the top and bottom cut off in Standard display mode
and
at a
smaller size in "Full 1" or "Full 2" mode, which is basically what I
am
seeing except Standard picture mode doesn't display the whole image
either.
It is probably the 4:3 display you mentioned.
Secondly, I guess if this option does not work at all, I could try
using my
other HDMI port on the TV to go from DVI to HDMI. Would this also be
SXGA? I
really don't understand how I could tell if my computer is sending
SXGA
or
VGA or whatever. i thought that was a function of the monitor?
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
ok, I think you misunderstood me about the video card...
Your computer my have onboard video wich if this is the case, the
vga
connector (were you connect your monitor) would be around were you
plug in
your mouse and keyboard area...
The other option, if you have a video card, it would be mounted
Horizontal
near the lower middle of the back of the computer...
The last other option would be a PCI slot, and this would be on
the
bottom
like 4 or so slots on the computer..
Anyhow, if the vga connector is in the lower middle to lower part
of
your
computer odds are, you have a video card and not onboard...
The card should look like this one,,,This is an example of one.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086157&CatId=0
ok, you see the vga and DVI output....ok
the other thing if you have a video card, make sure the onboard
video
is
disabled, and the video card is enabled and with the newest
drivers.
You can disable your onboard video, "once you know wich one it is"
by
going
to start, right click on my computer, then going to properties
then click the hardware tab and then device manager..
Look for your ati display. If you see two video... find the
onboard
one.
rightt click and disable it..
Anyhow make sure you look at the link to the video card, because
it
has a
picture of the dvi and vga. the adapter would convert the dvi to
vga
so you
can use a computer monitor.. Also these types of cards can control
two
monitors.Wich might be what your looking for..
anyhow Good luck.
"JW" wrote:
Be sure you check with ATI to make sure that your Radeon card
has a
DVI-I
connector on it that has VGA output on the extra 4 pins for a
DVI-I
to VGA
connector sinnce only a few of the ATI cards have this
capibility.
It sounds like you are outputting a 4:3 letterbox signal from
your
PC to
your Sony system and that is why you see borders on all sides.
The
top and
bottom borders being due to the letterbox output and the side
borders due to
the 4:3 output.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79F185DB-4ECF-4E60-843E-6CF700F1A193@microsoft.com...
That's an interesting idea. You're saying the VGA might be
connected to my
internal graphics card instead of my Radeon? That may be true.
So
I guess
I
need to buy or "try" a DVI to VGA adapter and see how that
looks.
I hope it works because I just talked to Sony and they tell me
I'm stuck
with my 42" box of screen sitting inside my 50" Tv with black
all
around.
This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't want to use this to watch
movies and
TV
with Media Center.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
I have another thought, It might be in that your using
onboard
video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent
video card
with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector
on
it. Hook
up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter
to
convert
to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If
not
you can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer
cant handle
the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a
PC
input. I
was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The
problem
is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with
black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm
not
using.
I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the
viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image
expand
to fit
my 50"
screen?
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| Posted:
Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:28 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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Ok, so I've got a couple of options then for this evening: Try DVI to SXGA
with an adaptor or look in the manual about resolutions accepted through the
HDMI port on the TV. I guess if I really had to I could use the component
adaptor as well, but I would rather not take up a component input (or HDMI
for that matter) when I have an input specifically made for a PC. That's why
it's so frustrating that it can't take up the whole screen, since it was
designed for a PC. The Sony guy implied that the TV was only meant to show
that smaller size. That seems odd to me.
"JW" wrote:
| Quote: | If you check your TV user manual it should state what resolution it will
accept over its DVI interface. Many TVs only accept 480i, 480p, 720p or
10880i over DVI or HDMI however the SXRD may accept 1080p over HDMI since
some TVs now are using 2nd generation HDMI receiver chips which accept
1080p. In any case the overscan is being performed by your TV when using
the HDMI interface since it is emulatin a standard CRT TV which has
overscanned all input for the last 50 years to avoid problems at the picture
borders. With Recent Catalyste drivers you can apply overscan compensation
which will underscan the output so that when it is overscanned by the TV all
of the image will get displayed.
The card that TriggerFinger linked to has a DVI-I connector not a HDMI
connector on it. however I didn't see any indication that there is a DVI-I
to VGA or DVI to Component adapter avialble for that card which would meant
that the extra four pins are not actually being used.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AA373415-769E-472E-BFC5-1CA0D6AFD3E9@microsoft.com...
Sorry, I probably didn't explain everything about my video card. It is a
Radeon 9800 with DVI out. I used ATI's DVI to component adaptor with my
last
TV to view Media Center. This overscanned badly but at least took up the
whole screen (27" HD Samsung CRT). Currently I'm not using the DVI out,
just
the VGA/SXGA, but I thought if I get nowhere this evening I might use my
DVI
to HDMI cable to connect to the TV instead of the VGA/SXGA
I bought this Sony SXRD TV (their version of LCoS) especially because of
the
PC input. The native resolution is 1920 x 1080p, I'm assuming at 60Hz
refresh
rate. They suggested setting my computer to that resolution, but all that
does is give me underscan and the TV displays a message stating "Out of
Range" even though it still shows the desktop. This resolution also
appears
smaller and squarish becasue I cannot use "Full" mode to stretch the
picture
horizontally (presumably due to the "out of range" error).
Currently, the biggest picture I get is when I set resolution to to 1024
by
768. This gives me the 42" or so rectangle in the middle with Full 2 mode.
Full 1 and Standard mode are both narrower, the Standard mode just a 30"
or
so square in the middle, Full 1 being a smaller rectangle.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
HDMI= HIGH DEFINITION MULTI-MEDIA INTERFACE
VGA = Video Graphics Array (resolution of 640 x 480)
Its not an option you can click on, these are 2 totally different
connectors. You need the hardware, the actual connector has to be on the
back
of you computer. If you have a HDMI connector on the back of your
computer,
then you computer is capable of sending HIGH DEFINITION video to your
monitor.
Look at the link i sent you, from tigerdirect. Look at the video card.
It has a vga and a HDMI connector. I think it my even have an S-Video
connector on it. You have to have these connectors on the back. If you do
than you have this option, if not. Then you need a video card that is
similar
to the one i sent you on the link...
Keep us updated
"John M" wrote:
Thanks again for the great information. I will make sure I look at this
when
I try again this evening.
A couple of more notes: The manual for my TV says that SXGA will be
displayed with the top and bottom cut off in Standard display mode and
at a
smaller size in "Full 1" or "Full 2" mode, which is basically what I am
seeing except Standard picture mode doesn't display the whole image
either.
It is probably the 4:3 display you mentioned.
Secondly, I guess if this option does not work at all, I could try
using my
other HDMI port on the TV to go from DVI to HDMI. Would this also be
SXGA? I
really don't understand how I could tell if my computer is sending SXGA
or
VGA or whatever. i thought that was a function of the monitor?
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
ok, I think you misunderstood me about the video card...
Your computer my have onboard video wich if this is the case, the vga
connector (were you connect your monitor) would be around were you
plug in
your mouse and keyboard area...
The other option, if you have a video card, it would be mounted
Horizontal
near the lower middle of the back of the computer...
The last other option would be a PCI slot, and this would be on the
bottom
like 4 or so slots on the computer..
Anyhow, if the vga connector is in the lower middle to lower part of
your
computer odds are, you have a video card and not onboard...
The card should look like this one,,,This is an example of one.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086157&CatId=0
ok, you see the vga and DVI output....ok
the other thing if you have a video card, make sure the onboard video
is
disabled, and the video card is enabled and with the newest drivers.
You can disable your onboard video, "once you know wich one it is" by
going
to start, right click on my computer, then going to properties
then click the hardware tab and then device manager..
Look for your ati display. If you see two video... find the onboard
one.
rightt click and disable it..
Anyhow make sure you look at the link to the video card, because it
has a
picture of the dvi and vga. the adapter would convert the dvi to vga
so you
can use a computer monitor.. Also these types of cards can control
two
monitors.Wich might be what your looking for..
anyhow Good luck.
"JW" wrote:
Be sure you check with ATI to make sure that your Radeon card has a
DVI-I
connector on it that has VGA output on the extra 4 pins for a DVI-I
to VGA
connector sinnce only a few of the ATI cards have this capibility.
It sounds like you are outputting a 4:3 letterbox signal from your
PC to
your Sony system and that is why you see borders on all sides. The
top and
bottom borders being due to the letterbox output and the side
borders due to
the 4:3 output.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79F185DB-4ECF-4E60-843E-6CF700F1A193@microsoft.com...
That's an interesting idea. You're saying the VGA might be
connected to my
internal graphics card instead of my Radeon? That may be true. So
I guess
I
need to buy or "try" a DVI to VGA adapter and see how that looks.
I hope it works because I just talked to Sony and they tell me
I'm stuck
with my 42" box of screen sitting inside my 50" Tv with black all
around.
This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't want to use this to watch
movies and
TV
with Media Center.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
I have another thought, It might be in that your using onboard
video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent
video card
with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector on
it. Hook
up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter to
convert
to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If not
you can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer
cant handle
the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC
input. I
was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem
is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with
black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not
using.
I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the
viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand
to fit
my 50"
screen?
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