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John M
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject:
How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using. I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit my 50"
screen? |
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Tom Scales
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:28 pm Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DFE141A3-8042-4001-B886-BBC40A203B35@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using. I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit my
50"
screen?
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You need to set the resolution of the computer to match the native
resolution of the TV.
Tom |
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John M
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:17 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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Well, the native resolution is 1920 x 1080 by 1920 I beleive, so I set it to
that resolution in my ATI Catalyst app. When I did this though, it just
expanded the area beyond the black border around the PC image, so I couldn't
see everything on the screen anymore. It's like the black border around the
image is fixed on the TV, no matter what I set my resolution to.
"Tom Scales" wrote:
| Quote: |
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DFE141A3-8042-4001-B886-BBC40A203B35@microsoft.com...
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using. I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit my
50"
screen?
You need to set the resolution of the computer to match the native
resolution of the TV.
Tom
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TriggerfingerEd
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:21 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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Does your video card have Dual monitor support, and if so. How are you
connecting it?
I have Two monitors,Nvidia is may Graphics card. It will only let me
Indipendently change the resolution if I am in DUAL VIEW, meaning one has my
desktop and the other is like an extention of it...
THis or try downloading the latest Video drivers from ATI...
Hope this helps
"John M" wrote:
| Quote: | Well, the native resolution is 1920 x 1080 by 1920 I beleive, so I set it to
that resolution in my ATI Catalyst app. When I did this though, it just
expanded the area beyond the black border around the PC image, so I couldn't
see everything on the screen anymore. It's like the black border around the
image is fixed on the TV, no matter what I set my resolution to.
"Tom Scales" wrote:
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DFE141A3-8042-4001-B886-BBC40A203B35@microsoft.com...
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using. I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit my
50"
screen?
You need to set the resolution of the computer to match the native
resolution of the TV.
Tom
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JW
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:28 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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Check your user Sony user manual to find out what resolutions it will accept
over the VGA interface, It might only accept 1080i inttead of the 1080p you
are trying to send it.
However, it acts as though you are sendiig a letteboxed 480i or 480p signal.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:554F4267-2AB6-4705-A382-AB522AB2DFC0@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | I have no other monitors hooked up to the PC, just my TV with VGA input. I
can't help thinking that it's the TV here, because it seems to keep that
black border around any resolution I feed it. I don't know why Sony would
constrain it this way. I had another projection TV that would stretch a
720p
resolution out so it filled most of the screen at least. I probably need
to
talk to Sony.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
Does your video card have Dual monitor support, and if so. How are you
connecting it?
I have Two monitors,Nvidia is may Graphics card. It will only let me
Indipendently change the resolution if I am in DUAL VIEW, meaning one has
my
desktop and the other is like an extention of it...
THis or try downloading the latest Video drivers from ATI...
Hope this helps
"John M" wrote:
Well, the native resolution is 1920 x 1080 by 1920 I beleive, so I set
it to
that resolution in my ATI Catalyst app. When I did this though, it just
expanded the area beyond the black border around the PC image, so I
couldn't
see everything on the screen anymore. It's like the black border around
the
image is fixed on the TV, no matter what I set my resolution to.
"Tom Scales" wrote:
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DFE141A3-8042-4001-B886-BBC40A203B35@microsoft.com...
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input.
I was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is
that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black
all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not
using. I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable
area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to
fit my
50"
screen?
You need to set the resolution of the computer to match the native
resolution of the TV.
Tom
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TriggerfingerEd
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:28 am Post subject:
RE: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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I have another thought, It might be in that your using onboard video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent video card with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector on it. Hook up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter to convert to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If not you can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer cant handle the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
| Quote: | I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using. I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit my 50"
screen? |
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John M
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:28 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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I have no other monitors hooked up to the PC, just my TV with VGA input. I
can't help thinking that it's the TV here, because it seems to keep that
black border around any resolution I feed it. I don't know why Sony would
constrain it this way. I had another projection TV that would stretch a 720p
resolution out so it filled most of the screen at least. I probably need to
talk to Sony.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
| Quote: | Does your video card have Dual monitor support, and if so. How are you
connecting it?
I have Two monitors,Nvidia is may Graphics card. It will only let me
Indipendently change the resolution if I am in DUAL VIEW, meaning one has my
desktop and the other is like an extention of it...
THis or try downloading the latest Video drivers from ATI...
Hope this helps
"John M" wrote:
Well, the native resolution is 1920 x 1080 by 1920 I beleive, so I set it to
that resolution in my ATI Catalyst app. When I did this though, it just
expanded the area beyond the black border around the PC image, so I couldn't
see everything on the screen anymore. It's like the black border around the
image is fixed on the TV, no matter what I set my resolution to.
"Tom Scales" wrote:
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DFE141A3-8042-4001-B886-BBC40A203B35@microsoft.com...
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using. I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit my
50"
screen?
You need to set the resolution of the computer to match the native
resolution of the TV.
Tom
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John M
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:26 am Post subject:
RE: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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That's an interesting idea. You're saying the VGA might be connected to my
internal graphics card instead of my Radeon? That may be true. So I guess I
need to buy or "try" a DVI to VGA adapter and see how that looks.
I hope it works because I just talked to Sony and they tell me I'm stuck
with my 42" box of screen sitting inside my 50" Tv with black all around.
This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't want to use this to watch movies and TV
with Media Center.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
| Quote: | I have another thought, It might be in that your using onboard video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent video card with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector on it. Hook up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter to convert to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If not you can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer cant handle the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using. I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit my 50"
screen? |
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JW
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:28 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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Be sure you check with ATI to make sure that your Radeon card has a DVI-I
connector on it that has VGA output on the extra 4 pins for a DVI-I to VGA
connector sinnce only a few of the ATI cards have this capibility.
It sounds like you are outputting a 4:3 letterbox signal from your PC to
your Sony system and that is why you see borders on all sides. The top and
bottom borders being due to the letterbox output and the side borders due to
the 4:3 output.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79F185DB-4ECF-4E60-843E-6CF700F1A193@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | That's an interesting idea. You're saying the VGA might be connected to my
internal graphics card instead of my Radeon? That may be true. So I guess
I
need to buy or "try" a DVI to VGA adapter and see how that looks.
I hope it works because I just talked to Sony and they tell me I'm stuck
with my 42" box of screen sitting inside my 50" Tv with black all around.
This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't want to use this to watch movies and
TV
with Media Center.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
I have another thought, It might be in that your using onboard video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent video card
with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector on it. Hook
up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter to convert
to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If not you can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer cant handle
the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I
was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using.
I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit
my 50"
screen? |
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TriggerfingerEd
Guest
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:28 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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ok, I think you misunderstood me about the video card...
Your computer my have onboard video wich if this is the case, the vga
connector (were you connect your monitor) would be around were you plug in
your mouse and keyboard area...
The other option, if you have a video card, it would be mounted Horizontal
near the lower middle of the back of the computer...
The last other option would be a PCI slot, and this would be on the bottom
like 4 or so slots on the computer..
Anyhow, if the vga connector is in the lower middle to lower part of your
computer odds are, you have a video card and not onboard...
The card should look like this one,,,This is an example of one.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086157&CatId=0
ok, you see the vga and DVI output....ok
the other thing if you have a video card, make sure the onboard video is
disabled, and the video card is enabled and with the newest drivers.
You can disable your onboard video, "once you know wich one it is" by going
to start, right click on my computer, then going to properties
then click the hardware tab and then device manager..
Look for your ati display. If you see two video... find the onboard one.
rightt click and disable it..
Anyhow make sure you look at the link to the video card, because it has a
picture of the dvi and vga. the adapter would convert the dvi to vga so you
can use a computer monitor.. Also these types of cards can control two
monitors.Wich might be what your looking for..
anyhow Good luck.
"JW" wrote:
| Quote: | Be sure you check with ATI to make sure that your Radeon card has a DVI-I
connector on it that has VGA output on the extra 4 pins for a DVI-I to VGA
connector sinnce only a few of the ATI cards have this capibility.
It sounds like you are outputting a 4:3 letterbox signal from your PC to
your Sony system and that is why you see borders on all sides. The top and
bottom borders being due to the letterbox output and the side borders due to
the 4:3 output.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79F185DB-4ECF-4E60-843E-6CF700F1A193@microsoft.com...
That's an interesting idea. You're saying the VGA might be connected to my
internal graphics card instead of my Radeon? That may be true. So I guess
I
need to buy or "try" a DVI to VGA adapter and see how that looks.
I hope it works because I just talked to Sony and they tell me I'm stuck
with my 42" box of screen sitting inside my 50" Tv with black all around.
This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't want to use this to watch movies and
TV
with Media Center.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
I have another thought, It might be in that your using onboard video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent video card
with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector on it. Hook
up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter to convert
to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If not you can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer cant handle
the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I
was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using.
I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit
my 50"
screen?
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kalev-
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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JW wrote:
| Quote: | Check your user Sony user manual to find out what resolutions it will
accept over the VGA interface, It might only accept 1080i inttead of the
1080p you are trying to send it.
However, it acts as though you are sendiig a letteboxed 480i or 480p
signal.
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I think I recall something similar happen om my TV.
= see if you have an "aspect ratio" button on the remote. It may have an
affect even on VGA input. (= Perhaps it's preset to 4:3 by default)
Just a guess... |
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John M
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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Thanks again for the great information. I will make sure I look at this when
I try again this evening.
A couple of more notes: The manual for my TV says that SXGA will be
displayed with the top and bottom cut off in Standard display mode and at a
smaller size in "Full 1" or "Full 2" mode, which is basically what I am
seeing except Standard picture mode doesn't display the whole image either.
It is probably the 4:3 display you mentioned.
Secondly, I guess if this option does not work at all, I could try using my
other HDMI port on the TV to go from DVI to HDMI. Would this also be SXGA? I
really don't understand how I could tell if my computer is sending SXGA or
VGA or whatever. i thought that was a function of the monitor?
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
| Quote: | ok, I think you misunderstood me about the video card...
Your computer my have onboard video wich if this is the case, the vga
connector (were you connect your monitor) would be around were you plug in
your mouse and keyboard area...
The other option, if you have a video card, it would be mounted Horizontal
near the lower middle of the back of the computer...
The last other option would be a PCI slot, and this would be on the bottom
like 4 or so slots on the computer..
Anyhow, if the vga connector is in the lower middle to lower part of your
computer odds are, you have a video card and not onboard...
The card should look like this one,,,This is an example of one.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086157&CatId=0
ok, you see the vga and DVI output....ok
the other thing if you have a video card, make sure the onboard video is
disabled, and the video card is enabled and with the newest drivers.
You can disable your onboard video, "once you know wich one it is" by going
to start, right click on my computer, then going to properties
then click the hardware tab and then device manager..
Look for your ati display. If you see two video... find the onboard one.
rightt click and disable it..
Anyhow make sure you look at the link to the video card, because it has a
picture of the dvi and vga. the adapter would convert the dvi to vga so you
can use a computer monitor.. Also these types of cards can control two
monitors.Wich might be what your looking for..
anyhow Good luck.
"JW" wrote:
Be sure you check with ATI to make sure that your Radeon card has a DVI-I
connector on it that has VGA output on the extra 4 pins for a DVI-I to VGA
connector sinnce only a few of the ATI cards have this capibility.
It sounds like you are outputting a 4:3 letterbox signal from your PC to
your Sony system and that is why you see borders on all sides. The top and
bottom borders being due to the letterbox output and the side borders due to
the 4:3 output.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79F185DB-4ECF-4E60-843E-6CF700F1A193@microsoft.com...
That's an interesting idea. You're saying the VGA might be connected to my
internal graphics card instead of my Radeon? That may be true. So I guess
I
need to buy or "try" a DVI to VGA adapter and see how that looks.
I hope it works because I just talked to Sony and they tell me I'm stuck
with my 42" box of screen sitting inside my 50" Tv with black all around.
This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't want to use this to watch movies and
TV
with Media Center.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
I have another thought, It might be in that your using onboard video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent video card
with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector on it. Hook
up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter to convert
to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If not you can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer cant handle
the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I
was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using.
I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit
my 50"
screen?
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JW
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:31 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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VGA is 640x480 and SXGA is 1280x1024. What is monitor dependent is the
highest resolution it can display and what is the native resolution of the
monitor if it is a digital technology moniotor such as LCD. Plasma. DLP or
LCOS.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B2B5A569-2CC1-4F7C-83B6-16F4A7C344CC@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | Thanks again for the great information. I will make sure I look at this
when
I try again this evening.
A couple of more notes: The manual for my TV says that SXGA will be
displayed with the top and bottom cut off in Standard display mode and at
a
smaller size in "Full 1" or "Full 2" mode, which is basically what I am
seeing except Standard picture mode doesn't display the whole image
either.
It is probably the 4:3 display you mentioned.
Secondly, I guess if this option does not work at all, I could try using
my
other HDMI port on the TV to go from DVI to HDMI. Would this also be SXGA?
I
really don't understand how I could tell if my computer is sending SXGA or
VGA or whatever. i thought that was a function of the monitor?
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
ok, I think you misunderstood me about the video card...
Your computer my have onboard video wich if this is the case, the vga
connector (were you connect your monitor) would be around were you plug
in
your mouse and keyboard area...
The other option, if you have a video card, it would be mounted
Horizontal
near the lower middle of the back of the computer...
The last other option would be a PCI slot, and this would be on the
bottom
like 4 or so slots on the computer..
Anyhow, if the vga connector is in the lower middle to lower part of your
computer odds are, you have a video card and not onboard...
The card should look like this one,,,This is an example of one.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086157&CatId=0
ok, you see the vga and DVI output....ok
the other thing if you have a video card, make sure the onboard video is
disabled, and the video card is enabled and with the newest drivers.
You can disable your onboard video, "once you know wich one it is" by
going
to start, right click on my computer, then going to properties
then click the hardware tab and then device manager..
Look for your ati display. If you see two video... find the onboard one.
rightt click and disable it..
Anyhow make sure you look at the link to the video card, because it has a
picture of the dvi and vga. the adapter would convert the dvi to vga so
you
can use a computer monitor.. Also these types of cards can control two
monitors.Wich might be what your looking for..
anyhow Good luck.
"JW" wrote:
Be sure you check with ATI to make sure that your Radeon card has a
DVI-I
connector on it that has VGA output on the extra 4 pins for a DVI-I to
VGA
connector sinnce only a few of the ATI cards have this capibility.
It sounds like you are outputting a 4:3 letterbox signal from your PC
to
your Sony system and that is why you see borders on all sides. The top
and
bottom borders being due to the letterbox output and the side borders
due to
the 4:3 output.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79F185DB-4ECF-4E60-843E-6CF700F1A193@microsoft.com...
That's an interesting idea. You're saying the VGA might be connected
to my
internal graphics card instead of my Radeon? That may be true. So I
guess
I
need to buy or "try" a DVI to VGA adapter and see how that looks.
I hope it works because I just talked to Sony and they tell me I'm
stuck
with my 42" box of screen sitting inside my 50" Tv with black all
around.
This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't want to use this to watch movies
and
TV
with Media Center.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
I have another thought, It might be in that your using onboard
video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent video
card
with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector on it.
Hook
up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter to
convert
to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If not you
can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer cant
handle
the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC
input. I
was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is
that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black
all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not
using.
I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable
area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to
fit
my 50"
screen?
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TriggerfingerEd
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:46 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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HDMI= HIGH DEFINITION MULTI-MEDIA INTERFACE
VGA = Video Graphics Array (resolution of 640 x 480)
Its not an option you can click on, these are 2 totally different
connectors. You need the hardware, the actual connector has to be on the back
of you computer. If you have a HDMI connector on the back of your computer,
then you computer is capable of sending HIGH DEFINITION video to your
monitor.
Look at the link i sent you, from tigerdirect. Look at the video card.
It has a vga and a HDMI connector. I think it my even have an S-Video
connector on it. You have to have these connectors on the back. If you do
than you have this option, if not. Then you need a video card that is similar
to the one i sent you on the link...
Keep us updated
"John M" wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks again for the great information. I will make sure I look at this when
I try again this evening.
A couple of more notes: The manual for my TV says that SXGA will be
displayed with the top and bottom cut off in Standard display mode and at a
smaller size in "Full 1" or "Full 2" mode, which is basically what I am
seeing except Standard picture mode doesn't display the whole image either.
It is probably the 4:3 display you mentioned.
Secondly, I guess if this option does not work at all, I could try using my
other HDMI port on the TV to go from DVI to HDMI. Would this also be SXGA? I
really don't understand how I could tell if my computer is sending SXGA or
VGA or whatever. i thought that was a function of the monitor?
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
ok, I think you misunderstood me about the video card...
Your computer my have onboard video wich if this is the case, the vga
connector (were you connect your monitor) would be around were you plug in
your mouse and keyboard area...
The other option, if you have a video card, it would be mounted Horizontal
near the lower middle of the back of the computer...
The last other option would be a PCI slot, and this would be on the bottom
like 4 or so slots on the computer..
Anyhow, if the vga connector is in the lower middle to lower part of your
computer odds are, you have a video card and not onboard...
The card should look like this one,,,This is an example of one.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086157&CatId=0
ok, you see the vga and DVI output....ok
the other thing if you have a video card, make sure the onboard video is
disabled, and the video card is enabled and with the newest drivers.
You can disable your onboard video, "once you know wich one it is" by going
to start, right click on my computer, then going to properties
then click the hardware tab and then device manager..
Look for your ati display. If you see two video... find the onboard one.
rightt click and disable it..
Anyhow make sure you look at the link to the video card, because it has a
picture of the dvi and vga. the adapter would convert the dvi to vga so you
can use a computer monitor.. Also these types of cards can control two
monitors.Wich might be what your looking for..
anyhow Good luck.
"JW" wrote:
Be sure you check with ATI to make sure that your Radeon card has a DVI-I
connector on it that has VGA output on the extra 4 pins for a DVI-I to VGA
connector sinnce only a few of the ATI cards have this capibility.
It sounds like you are outputting a 4:3 letterbox signal from your PC to
your Sony system and that is why you see borders on all sides. The top and
bottom borders being due to the letterbox output and the side borders due to
the 4:3 output.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79F185DB-4ECF-4E60-843E-6CF700F1A193@microsoft.com...
That's an interesting idea. You're saying the VGA might be connected to my
internal graphics card instead of my Radeon? That may be true. So I guess
I
need to buy or "try" a DVI to VGA adapter and see how that looks.
I hope it works because I just talked to Sony and they tell me I'm stuck
with my 42" box of screen sitting inside my 50" Tv with black all around.
This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't want to use this to watch movies and
TV
with Media Center.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
I have another thought, It might be in that your using onboard video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent video card
with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector on it. Hook
up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter to convert
to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If not you can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer cant handle
the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I
was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using.
I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit
my 50"
screen?
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John M
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:11 am Post subject:
Re: How do I get a full screen through my TV's VGA input? |
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Sorry, I probably didn't explain everything about my video card. It is a
Radeon 9800 with DVI out. I used ATI's DVI to component adaptor with my last
TV to view Media Center. This overscanned badly but at least took up the
whole screen (27" HD Samsung CRT). Currently I'm not using the DVI out, just
the VGA/SXGA, but I thought if I get nowhere this evening I might use my DVI
to HDMI cable to connect to the TV instead of the VGA/SXGA
I bought this Sony SXRD TV (their version of LCoS) especially because of the
PC input. The native resolution is 1920 x 1080p, I'm assuming at 60Hz refresh
rate. They suggested setting my computer to that resolution, but all that
does is give me underscan and the TV displays a message stating "Out of
Range" even though it still shows the desktop. This resolution also appears
smaller and squarish becasue I cannot use "Full" mode to stretch the picture
horizontally (presumably due to the "out of range" error).
Currently, the biggest picture I get is when I set resolution to to 1024 by
768. This gives me the 42" or so rectangle in the middle with Full 2 mode.
Full 1 and Standard mode are both narrower, the Standard mode just a 30" or
so square in the middle, Full 1 being a smaller rectangle.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
| Quote: | HDMI= HIGH DEFINITION MULTI-MEDIA INTERFACE
VGA = Video Graphics Array (resolution of 640 x 480)
Its not an option you can click on, these are 2 totally different
connectors. You need the hardware, the actual connector has to be on the back
of you computer. If you have a HDMI connector on the back of your computer,
then you computer is capable of sending HIGH DEFINITION video to your
monitor.
Look at the link i sent you, from tigerdirect. Look at the video card.
It has a vga and a HDMI connector. I think it my even have an S-Video
connector on it. You have to have these connectors on the back. If you do
than you have this option, if not. Then you need a video card that is similar
to the one i sent you on the link...
Keep us updated
"John M" wrote:
Thanks again for the great information. I will make sure I look at this when
I try again this evening.
A couple of more notes: The manual for my TV says that SXGA will be
displayed with the top and bottom cut off in Standard display mode and at a
smaller size in "Full 1" or "Full 2" mode, which is basically what I am
seeing except Standard picture mode doesn't display the whole image either.
It is probably the 4:3 display you mentioned.
Secondly, I guess if this option does not work at all, I could try using my
other HDMI port on the TV to go from DVI to HDMI. Would this also be SXGA? I
really don't understand how I could tell if my computer is sending SXGA or
VGA or whatever. i thought that was a function of the monitor?
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
ok, I think you misunderstood me about the video card...
Your computer my have onboard video wich if this is the case, the vga
connector (were you connect your monitor) would be around were you plug in
your mouse and keyboard area...
The other option, if you have a video card, it would be mounted Horizontal
near the lower middle of the back of the computer...
The last other option would be a PCI slot, and this would be on the bottom
like 4 or so slots on the computer..
Anyhow, if the vga connector is in the lower middle to lower part of your
computer odds are, you have a video card and not onboard...
The card should look like this one,,,This is an example of one.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086157&CatId=0
ok, you see the vga and DVI output....ok
the other thing if you have a video card, make sure the onboard video is
disabled, and the video card is enabled and with the newest drivers.
You can disable your onboard video, "once you know wich one it is" by going
to start, right click on my computer, then going to properties
then click the hardware tab and then device manager..
Look for your ati display. If you see two video... find the onboard one.
rightt click and disable it..
Anyhow make sure you look at the link to the video card, because it has a
picture of the dvi and vga. the adapter would convert the dvi to vga so you
can use a computer monitor.. Also these types of cards can control two
monitors.Wich might be what your looking for..
anyhow Good luck.
"JW" wrote:
Be sure you check with ATI to make sure that your Radeon card has a DVI-I
connector on it that has VGA output on the extra 4 pins for a DVI-I to VGA
connector sinnce only a few of the ATI cards have this capibility.
It sounds like you are outputting a 4:3 letterbox signal from your PC to
your Sony system and that is why you see borders on all sides. The top and
bottom borders being due to the letterbox output and the side borders due to
the 4:3 output.
"John M" <JohnM@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:79F185DB-4ECF-4E60-843E-6CF700F1A193@microsoft.com...
That's an interesting idea. You're saying the VGA might be connected to my
internal graphics card instead of my Radeon? That may be true. So I guess
I
need to buy or "try" a DVI to VGA adapter and see how that looks.
I hope it works because I just talked to Sony and they tell me I'm stuck
with my 42" box of screen sitting inside my 50" Tv with black all around.
This wouldn't be so bad if I didn't want to use this to watch movies and
TV
with Media Center.
"TriggerfingerEd" wrote:
I have another thought, It might be in that your using onboard video..
Try buying a video card that you can return....Get a decent video card
with
dual monitor support. It will have a VGA and a DVI connector on it. Hook
up
one to your computer monitor and the dvi will use an adapter to convert
to
VGA. and hook this one to Your TV.... if it works great. If not you can
return it to the store...
Just an Idea, cause I think your video card on your computer cant handle
the
Tv setup...
anyhow good luck
"John M" wrote:
I just bought a Sony KDS-R50XBR1 rear projection TV with a PC input. I
was
hoping it would be ideal for my Media Center PC. The problem is that
through
the PC input, the screen is a rectangle in the middle, with black all
around.
There's a lot of square inches around the picture that I'm not using.
I've
tried using my TV settings, but all it can do is make the viewable area
even
smaller.
I am I stuck with this screen size? Why won't the image expand to fit
my 50"
screen?
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