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RipperT
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: networking xp and 98 Reply with quote

I am attempting to add a Windows 98 (not SE) machine to an existing network
of two xp machines with a DLink DWL-520 wireless card thru a Belkin G
router. I should mention that I've had a 98 machine (not sure if it was SE)
on this same network in the past using the same DLink card, but a B router,
and it worked fine. The Mobo went bad on that machine, so I built this new
one using a new OEM version of 98. (I 'bought' 98 SE off eBay, but I don'
think I got it. How do I tell for sure if it's SE?)

I've checked that the drivers are current, that the card is configured
properly, machine ID's are correct, but the 98 machine just won't recognize
the others. It shows MSHOME as the domain, and itself in the network window,
but not the others, and the others can't see it, either.

I did hook a CAT 5 cable to a wired NIC card on this machine and was able to
surf the web, but I removed the wired card and tried the wireless, but no
go. I need it to be wireless.

Any idea what I should check?

A bazillion thanx,

Rip

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rippertsmith<nospam>@comcast.net
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Chuck
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: networking xp and 98 Reply with quote

On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:39:47 -0500, "RipperT"
<rippertsmith<N_oS_pAm>@comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
I am attempting to add a Windows 98 (not SE) machine to an existing network
of two xp machines with a DLink DWL-520 wireless card thru a Belkin G
router. I should mention that I've had a 98 machine (not sure if it was SE)
on this same network in the past using the same DLink card, but a B router,
and it worked fine. The Mobo went bad on that machine, so I built this new
one using a new OEM version of 98. (I 'bought' 98 SE off eBay, but I don'
think I got it. How do I tell for sure if it's SE?)

I've checked that the drivers are current, that the card is configured
properly, machine ID's are correct, but the 98 machine just won't recognize
the others. It shows MSHOME as the domain, and itself in the network window,
but not the others, and the others can't see it, either.

I did hook a CAT 5 cable to a wired NIC card on this machine and was able to
surf the web, but I removed the wired card and tried the wireless, but no
go. I need it to be wireless.

Any idea what I should check?

A bazillion thanx,

Rip

Rip, Assuming that you have no connectivity (physical or logical) issues, and no
security issues, your problem is quite likely the well known conflict between
Windows 9x (95, 98, ME) and Windows NT (NT, 2000, XP, 2003).
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

Please let us know if any of these suggestions are of any help. What you learn
may help others in the future, and that's the purpose of these forums.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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RipperT
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: networking xp and 98 Reply with quote

Will report back. How do I tell if my 98 is SE?

Rip


"Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
news:e62tm1h8c95s7hp82e3n0qo48kc6of6ttb@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:39:47 -0500, "RipperT"
rippertsmith<N_oS_pAm>@comcast.net> wrote:

I am attempting to add a Windows 98 (not SE) machine to an existing
network
of two xp machines with a DLink DWL-520 wireless card thru a Belkin G
router. I should mention that I've had a 98 machine (not sure if it was
SE)
on this same network in the past using the same DLink card, but a B
router,
and it worked fine. The Mobo went bad on that machine, so I built this new
one using a new OEM version of 98. (I 'bought' 98 SE off eBay, but I don'
think I got it. How do I tell for sure if it's SE?)

I've checked that the drivers are current, that the card is configured
properly, machine ID's are correct, but the 98 machine just won't
recognize
the others. It shows MSHOME as the domain, and itself in the network
window,
but not the others, and the others can't see it, either.

I did hook a CAT 5 cable to a wired NIC card on this machine and was able
to
surf the web, but I removed the wired card and tried the wireless, but no
go. I need it to be wireless.

Any idea what I should check?

A bazillion thanx,

Rip

Rip, Assuming that you have no connectivity (physical or logical) issues,
and no
security issues, your problem is quite likely the well known conflict
between
Windows 9x (95, 98, ME) and Windows NT (NT, 2000, XP, 2003).
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

Please let us know if any of these suggestions are of any help. What you
learn
may help others in the future, and that's the purpose of these forums.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Chuck
Guest





Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: networking xp and 98 Reply with quote

On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:54:02 -0500, "RipperT" <rippert<nospam>@comcast.net>
wrote:

Quote:
"Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
news:e62tm1h8c95s7hp82e3n0qo48kc6of6ttb@4ax.com...
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:39:47 -0500, "RipperT"
rippertsmith<N_oS_pAm>@comcast.net> wrote:

I am attempting to add a Windows 98 (not SE) machine to an existing
network
of two xp machines with a DLink DWL-520 wireless card thru a Belkin G
router. I should mention that I've had a 98 machine (not sure if it was
SE)
on this same network in the past using the same DLink card, but a B
router,
and it worked fine. The Mobo went bad on that machine, so I built this new
one using a new OEM version of 98. (I 'bought' 98 SE off eBay, but I don'
think I got it. How do I tell for sure if it's SE?)

I've checked that the drivers are current, that the card is configured
properly, machine ID's are correct, but the 98 machine just won't
recognize
the others. It shows MSHOME as the domain, and itself in the network
window,
but not the others, and the others can't see it, either.

I did hook a CAT 5 cable to a wired NIC card on this machine and was able
to
surf the web, but I removed the wired card and tried the wireless, but no
go. I need it to be wireless.

Any idea what I should check?

A bazillion thanx,

Rip

Rip, Assuming that you have no connectivity (physical or logical) issues,
and no
security issues, your problem is quite likely the well known conflict
between
Windows 9x (95, 98, ME) and Windows NT (NT, 2000, XP, 2003).
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

Please let us know if any of these suggestions are of any help. What you
learn
may help others in the future, and that's the purpose of these forums.

Rip,

I would think that your System Properties applet will display the system
version, though I don't know what 98 pre-SE shows; I doubt it says "98 pre-SE".

But that's irrelevant. Windows 95, 98, and ME have the same problem. SE or no.
As far as I know. Where do you see a reference to 98 SE, where that becomes an
issue?

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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RipperT
Guest





Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: networking xp and 98 Reply with quote

SE has Internet Connection Sharing, pre SE doesn't. Also, the DLink wireless
card says it's compatible with 98SE, Me, 2000, NT & XP, so I wonder if that
means it's NOT compatible w/98 pre-SE. I'm pretty certain, however, that
the last time I had this card working, it was on a pre-SE machine.

In your first post, you state,

Quote:
Rip, Assuming that you have no connectivity (physical or logical) issues,
and no
security issues. . .

I would like to check for those issues, but I'm not sure where to start . .
..

Thanx again,

Rip

--
Ripper T Smith
rippertsmith<nospam>@comcast.net
"Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
news:6chtm119d22ukf1ltik876go6352r41ivb@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:54:02 -0500, "RipperT" <rippert<nospam>@comcast.net
wrote:

"Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
news:e62tm1h8c95s7hp82e3n0qo48kc6of6ttb@4ax.com...
On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:39:47 -0500, "RipperT"
rippertsmith<N_oS_pAm>@comcast.net> wrote:

I am attempting to add a Windows 98 (not SE) machine to an existing
network
of two xp machines with a DLink DWL-520 wireless card thru a Belkin G
router. I should mention that I've had a 98 machine (not sure if it was
SE)
on this same network in the past using the same DLink card, but a B
router,
and it worked fine. The Mobo went bad on that machine, so I built this
new
one using a new OEM version of 98. (I 'bought' 98 SE off eBay, but I
don'
think I got it. How do I tell for sure if it's SE?)

I've checked that the drivers are current, that the card is configured
properly, machine ID's are correct, but the 98 machine just won't
recognize
the others. It shows MSHOME as the domain, and itself in the network
window,
but not the others, and the others can't see it, either.

I did hook a CAT 5 cable to a wired NIC card on this machine and was
able
to
surf the web, but I removed the wired card and tried the wireless, but
no
go. I need it to be wireless.

Any idea what I should check?

A bazillion thanx,

Rip

Rip, Assuming that you have no connectivity (physical or logical)
issues,
and no
security issues, your problem is quite likely the well known conflict
between
Windows 9x (95, 98, ME) and Windows NT (NT, 2000, XP, 2003).
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

Please let us know if any of these suggestions are of any help. What
you
learn
may help others in the future, and that's the purpose of these forums.

Rip,

I would think that your System Properties applet will display the system
version, though I don't know what 98 pre-SE shows; I doubt it says "98
pre-SE".

But that's irrelevant. Windows 95, 98, and ME have the same problem. SE
or no.
As far as I know. Where do you see a reference to 98 SE, where that
becomes an
issue?

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Chuck
Guest





Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: networking xp and 98 Reply with quote

On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:33:33 -0500, "RipperT"
<rippertsmith<N_oS_pAm>@comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
SE has Internet Connection Sharing, pre SE doesn't. Also, the DLink wireless
card says it's compatible with 98SE, Me, 2000, NT & XP, so I wonder if that
means it's NOT compatible w/98 pre-SE. I'm pretty certain, however, that
the last time I had this card working, it was on a pre-SE machine.

In your first post, you state,

Rip, Assuming that you have no connectivity (physical or logical) issues,
and no
security issues. . .

I would like to check for those issues, but I'm not sure where to start . .
.

Thanx again,

Rip

Rip,

Why is ICS a consideration, if you have a router?

If you want to consider connectivity and all other issues, start with my
comprehensive troubleshooting guide.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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RipperT
Guest





Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: networking xp and 98 Reply with quote

I installed XP over 98 and the card works fine, so it must not be compatible
with pre- SE.

Thanx,

Ripper

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Ripper T Smith
rippertsmith<nospam>@comcast.net
"Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
news:7dpvm1t3krsd4qfkcjjobd7b8fgcon0f7b@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:33:33 -0500, "RipperT"
rippertsmith<N_oS_pAm>@comcast.net> wrote:

SE has Internet Connection Sharing, pre SE doesn't. Also, the DLink
wireless
card says it's compatible with 98SE, Me, 2000, NT & XP, so I wonder if
that
means it's NOT compatible w/98 pre-SE. I'm pretty certain, however, that
the last time I had this card working, it was on a pre-SE machine.

In your first post, you state,

Rip, Assuming that you have no connectivity (physical or logical)
issues,
and no
security issues. . .

I would like to check for those issues, but I'm not sure where to start .
.
.

Thanx again,

Rip

Rip,

Why is ICS a consideration, if you have a router?

If you want to consider connectivity and all other issues, start with my
comprehensive troubleshooting guide.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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