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tincan
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:27 am Post subject:
Slow file/folder delete |
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On first use of file or folder delete from Explorer, it takes 20 to 25
seconds. The next deletes are lightening fast. If I enter an application and
then attempt a file delete, it's back to the slow 20 to 25 Seconds.
New Dell Dimension 9100 but had the problem on my old system too. I started
somewhere during the installation of my old applications on the new system,
but at a point that I couldn't trace the offending app. I managae my startups
pretty aggressively (Process Explorer, WinPatrol Plus, and The Ultimate
Troubleshooter) and about a year ago I did remove all but Microsoft-necessary
services and startups but that didn't correct the problem.
Anyone have any ideas on where to start?
Dual-core Intel, 1G mem, WinXP. |
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Sharon F
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:26 am Post subject:
Re: Slow file/folder delete |
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:55:04 -0800, tincan wrote:
| Quote: | On first use of file or folder delete from Explorer, it takes 20 to 25
seconds. The next deletes are lightening fast. If I enter an application and
then attempt a file delete, it's back to the slow 20 to 25 Seconds.
New Dell Dimension 9100 but had the problem on my old system too. I started
somewhere during the installation of my old applications on the new system,
but at a point that I couldn't trace the offending app. I managae my startups
pretty aggressively (Process Explorer, WinPatrol Plus, and The Ultimate
Troubleshooter) and about a year ago I did remove all but Microsoft-necessary
services and startups but that didn't correct the problem.
Anyone have any ideas on where to start?
Dual-core Intel, 1G mem, WinXP.
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Is System Restore enabled? You mention deleting programs. SR will monitor
the deletion of EXE files from certain locations. The wait you're
experiencing may be System Restore making a copy of the file before Windows
deletes it.
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Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User |
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tincan
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:27 am Post subject:
Re: Slow file/folder delete |
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Yes System Restore is enabled and you make a valid point I think. But why
would it be slow on just the first delete? If I am using one program and then
do a file delete with Explorer or xplorer2, whether single or multiple file
or folders, it takes the 20-25 secs. After that, all subsequent deletes go in
a flash. I go to another application and then go back to the delete and it
starts all over again with the slow action.
Thanks for the response.
"Sharon F" wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:55:04 -0800, tincan wrote:
On first use of file or folder delete from Explorer, it takes 20 to 25
seconds. The next deletes are lightening fast. If I enter an application and
then attempt a file delete, it's back to the slow 20 to 25 Seconds.
New Dell Dimension 9100 but had the problem on my old system too. I started
somewhere during the installation of my old applications on the new system,
but at a point that I couldn't trace the offending app. I managae my startups
pretty aggressively (Process Explorer, WinPatrol Plus, and The Ultimate
Troubleshooter) and about a year ago I did remove all but Microsoft-necessary
services and startups but that didn't correct the problem.
Anyone have any ideas on where to start?
Dual-core Intel, 1G mem, WinXP.
Is System Restore enabled? You mention deleting programs. SR will monitor
the deletion of EXE files from certain locations. The wait you're
experiencing may be System Restore making a copy of the file before Windows
deletes it.
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Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
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Sharon F
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:47 am Post subject:
Re: Slow file/folder delete |
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:38:11 -0800, tincan wrote:
| Quote: | Yes System Restore is enabled and you make a valid point I think. But why
would it be slow on just the first delete? If I am using one program and then
do a file delete with Explorer or xplorer2, whether single or multiple file
or folders, it takes the 20-25 secs. After that, all subsequent deletes go in
a flash. I go to another application and then go back to the delete and it
starts all over again with the slow action.
Thanks for the response.
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No idea why. Non-technical explanation: Explorer goes a little brain-dead
at times -all versions of Windows. To be fair, there may more going on
behind the scenes at the time than one realizes: auto-defrag (occurs about
every 3 days), shadow volume service (creates a virtual area to "stash"
files before copying them), background antivirus scans, various update
checks....
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Sharon F
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tincan
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:27 am Post subject:
Re: Slow file/folder delete |
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Thanks again for the reply. I manage my services and startups pretty
rigorously, but I do have quite a few running (AV, several anti-spyware, an
object docker, etc). Still, my problem is too predictable to be attributed to
any scans or defrags that have to run periodically, but not continuously. Of
those apps that run continuously in the background, the problem pre-dates
most of them or I have disabled them in trying to find my slow delete problem.
I had a brilliant idea last night that my Recycle bin might be too full. I
didn't really check to see if it was full but I did a repeated comparison of
a flie delete to the Recycle Bin and deletes which bypass the Recycle bin. My
problem was there when the Recycle Bin was used, but consistently absent when
I bypass the Bin. I'll run the test again while I'm doing other work, but I
really think the Recycle Bin has something to do with the problem.
Bob
"Sharon F" wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:38:11 -0800, tincan wrote:
Yes System Restore is enabled and you make a valid point I think. But why
would it be slow on just the first delete? If I am using one program and then
do a file delete with Explorer or xplorer2, whether single or multiple file
or folders, it takes the 20-25 secs. After that, all subsequent deletes go in
a flash. I go to another application and then go back to the delete and it
starts all over again with the slow action.
Thanks for the response.
No idea why. Non-technical explanation: Explorer goes a little brain-dead
at times -all versions of Windows. To be fair, there may more going on
behind the scenes at the time than one realizes: auto-defrag (occurs about
every 3 days), shadow volume service (creates a virtual area to "stash"
files before copying them), background antivirus scans, various update
checks....
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Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
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Sharon F
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject:
Re: Slow file/folder delete |
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On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:58:03 -0800, tincan wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks again for the reply. I manage my services and startups pretty
rigorously, but I do have quite a few running (AV, several anti-spyware, an
object docker, etc). Still, my problem is too predictable to be attributed to
any scans or defrags that have to run periodically, but not continuously. Of
those apps that run continuously in the background, the problem pre-dates
most of them or I have disabled them in trying to find my slow delete problem.
I had a brilliant idea last night that my Recycle bin might be too full. I
didn't really check to see if it was full but I did a repeated comparison of
a flie delete to the Recycle Bin and deletes which bypass the Recycle bin. My
problem was there when the Recycle Bin was used, but consistently absent when
I bypass the Bin. I'll run the test again while I'm doing other work, but I
really think the Recycle Bin has something to do with the problem.
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Could be the Recycle Bin. Note: If you've ever used System Restore to
revert back to a previous restore point, you may find that some files of
the type that are monitored have returned.
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Sharon F
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject:
Re: Slow file/folder delete |
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I have the exact same problem as the original poster, and I've read
several other USENET articles citing similar problems -- though no
definitive solutions. If anyone finds out anything, please post. I
do have system restore on, and a fairly large recycle bin. I'm going
to do some troubleshooting with these elements.
-Chess |
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JBE
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject:
RE: Slow file/folder delete |
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I know that when you're using McAfee Vscan and On-access scan is enabled, it
takes very long to delete files to the recycle bin. I now wait for an answer
from Network Associates and I hope that they can help me. If they got an
answer I'll post it here.
"tincan" schreef:
| Quote: | On first use of file or folder delete from Explorer, it takes 20 to 25
seconds. The next deletes are lightening fast. If I enter an application and
then attempt a file delete, it's back to the slow 20 to 25 Seconds.
New Dell Dimension 9100 but had the problem on my old system too. I started
somewhere during the installation of my old applications on the new system,
but at a point that I couldn't trace the offending app. I managae my startups
pretty aggressively (Process Explorer, WinPatrol Plus, and The Ultimate
Troubleshooter) and about a year ago I did remove all but Microsoft-necessary
services and startups but that didn't correct the problem.
Anyone have any ideas on where to start?
Dual-core Intel, 1G mem, WinXP. |
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