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Lsnewton
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:47 pm    Post subject: Clip shortening Reply with quote

For some reason, several AVI's that I've imported into wmm have had parts
missing form the ends of them. The stand alone movie files are fine, so it's
obviously Movie maker that's doing this, but I can't figure out why. They
have no transition on either side of them, either.
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Lsnewton
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:58 pm    Post subject: RE: Clip shortening Reply with quote

Bump. I forgot to tick the 'notify me of replies' thing, so please respond to
this message and not the main one.
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Graham Hughes
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Clip shortening Reply with quote

Are these dv-avi's?
What length are they?
Have you another editing app you can try them with?
Is it just one end or both ends that have trouble?

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Bump. I forgot to tick the 'notify me of replies' thing, so please respond
to
this message and not the main one.
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Lsnewton
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Clip shortening Reply with quote

I have no idea if they're dv-avi's. They have the .avi file extension and
that's pretty much all I know.
They're only a few seconds long (but the file size is relatively big for
small clips due to the fact that they were made as high-quality 3D renders).
I don't have any other program to edit them together with, unless you can
suggest a free one that might work.
It's the end that's being trimmed. The beginning is fine.

"Graham Hughes" wrote:

Quote:
Are these dv-avi's?
What length are they?
Have you another editing app you can try them with?
Is it just one end or both ends that have trouble?

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Bump. I forgot to tick the 'notify me of replies' thing, so please respond
to
this message and not the main one.


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PapaJohn (MVP)
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: Clip shortening Reply with quote

get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI file....
there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.

If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx



"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I have no idea if they're dv-avi's. They have the .avi file extension and
that's pretty much all I know.
They're only a few seconds long (but the file size is relatively big for
small clips due to the fact that they were made as high-quality 3D
renders).
I don't have any other program to edit them together with, unless you can
suggest a free one that might work.
It's the end that's being trimmed. The beginning is fine.

"Graham Hughes" wrote:

Are these dv-avi's?
What length are they?
Have you another editing app you can try them with?
Is it just one end or both ends that have trouble?

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:749E8DE1-FC58-43DC-BE1D-8DFF3F5517E1@microsoft.com...
Bump. I forgot to tick the 'notify me of replies' thing, so please
respond
to
this message and not the main one.


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Lsnewton
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Clip shortening Reply with quote

So you think it might be a codec problem? All the clips being made are being
built frame-by-frame by myself. I checked what codec I had set to make the
avi and it turned out to be "(cvid) Cinepak Codec by Radius"
I chose that one because it gave me the best image quality with my
animations, but it also results in the files being somewhat large.

"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

Quote:
get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI file....
there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.

If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx
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PapaJohn (MVP)
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Clip shortening Reply with quote

I've used the Cinepak codec a good bit and haven't run into issues with
Movie Maker... maybe it's something else.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5353BE58-A5FD-41FB-BF40-B95095F506C9@microsoft.com...
Quote:
So you think it might be a codec problem? All the clips being made are
being
built frame-by-frame by myself. I checked what codec I had set to make the
avi and it turned out to be "(cvid) Cinepak Codec by Radius"
I chose that one because it gave me the best image quality with my
animations, but it also results in the files being somewhat large.

"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI file....
there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.

If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx

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Graham Hughes
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Clip shortening Reply with quote

What app are you making these with?
Have you tried putting a few blank frames at the end, these will get cut off
and leave you your finished product, if youhave two many, you can cut the
rest off in MM anyway. I'm not really sure what might be causing it either.

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
news:uQwn3V52FHA.472@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Quote:
I've used the Cinepak codec a good bit and haven't run into issues with
Movie Maker... maybe it's something else.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5353BE58-A5FD-41FB-BF40-B95095F506C9@microsoft.com...
So you think it might be a codec problem? All the clips being made are
being
built frame-by-frame by myself. I checked what codec I had set to make
the
avi and it turned out to be "(cvid) Cinepak Codec by Radius"
I chose that one because it gave me the best image quality with my
animations, but it also results in the files being somewhat large.

"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI file....
there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.

If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters:
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx



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Lsnewton
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Clip shortening Reply with quote

The clips are being made with a combination of the RHINO 3D NURBS modelling
software and the BONGO animation plugin. Adding some xtra frames onto the end
would require re-rendering the entire clip, and that really isn't a viable
option cinsidering the time it takes to make one.

"Graham Hughes" wrote:

Quote:
What app are you making these with?
Have you tried putting a few blank frames at the end, these will get cut off
and leave you your finished product, if youhave two many, you can cut the
rest off in MM anyway. I'm not really sure what might be causing it either.

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
news:uQwn3V52FHA.472@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
I've used the Cinepak codec a good bit and haven't run into issues with
Movie Maker... maybe it's something else.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5353BE58-A5FD-41FB-BF40-B95095F506C9@microsoft.com...
So you think it might be a codec problem? All the clips being made are
being
built frame-by-frame by myself. I checked what codec I had set to make
the
avi and it turned out to be "(cvid) Cinepak Codec by Radius"
I chose that one because it gave me the best image quality with my
animations, but it also results in the files being somewhat large.

"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI file....
there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.

If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters:
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx






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PapaJohn (MVP)
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Clip shortening Reply with quote

try it in Movie Maker 1
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PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters: http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DD37676A-16FD-46BB-B1FD-F009DC2B916F@microsoft.com...
Quote:
The clips are being made with a combination of the RHINO 3D NURBS
modelling
software and the BONGO animation plugin. Adding some xtra frames onto the
end
would require re-rendering the entire clip, and that really isn't a viable
option cinsidering the time it takes to make one.

"Graham Hughes" wrote:

What app are you making these with?
Have you tried putting a few blank frames at the end, these will get cut
off
and leave you your finished product, if youhave two many, you can cut the
rest off in MM anyway. I'm not really sure what might be causing it
either.

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
news:uQwn3V52FHA.472@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
I've used the Cinepak codec a good bit and haven't run into issues with
Movie Maker... maybe it's something else.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters:
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx


"Lsnewton" <Lsnewton@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5353BE58-A5FD-41FB-BF40-B95095F506C9@microsoft.com...
So you think it might be a codec problem? All the clips being made are
being
built frame-by-frame by myself. I checked what codec I had set to make
the
avi and it turned out to be "(cvid) Cinepak Codec by Radius"
I chose that one because it gave me the best image quality with my
animations, but it also results in the files being somewhat large.

"PapaJohn (MVP)" wrote:

get the GSpot utility and check the codec used to make the AVI
file....
there's a link to it on the Setup > Other Software page of my site.

If it's some flavor of Divx, Xvid, then such issues are normal... and
warrant file conversion before using in Movie Maker.
--
PapaJohn

Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
MM2 Tips and Tricks:
http://www.simplydv.co.uk/simplyBB/viewtopic.php?t=4693
Online Newsletters:
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/PapaJohn/Index.aspx






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