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Fred
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
USB card |
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I have added to a friends PC a USB card using one the ubiquitous NEC
devices.
I had expected, perhaps naively, that WinXP would find the card and install
drivers for everything to be hunky-dory.
However there was a problem and although the USB ports and hubs were in
device manager they didn't work and start.
I read somewhere that the BIOS must be USB aware for USB to work. Is this
correct and why?
The motherboard is quite old with an old 333MHz processor, can't remember if
it's AMD or Intel. Unfortunately apart from a "ver3.0" in one corner, there
are no names or numbers to be found. I haven't looked on the reverse side
but really don't expect to find anything there. If I use PC Wizard, it
comes back with motherboard and BIOS manufacturer and model unknown. So
it's not possible to find a appropriate BIOS to Flash it with.
Any ideas? I'd rather not say they should junk it all! |
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Grim Reaper
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
Re: USB card |
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A 333??? Unfortunately, I recommend junk it all!!
A motherboard/CPU/RAM upgrade should cost less than £100 - even going up to
1.8 Ghz.
If you can find anyone who still sells them... lol
___________________________________________
The Grim Reaper
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f7556$0$23296$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
| Quote: | I have added to a friends PC a USB card using one the ubiquitous NEC
devices.
I had expected, perhaps naively, that WinXP would find the card and
install drivers for everything to be hunky-dory.
However there was a problem and although the USB ports and hubs were in
device manager they didn't work and start.
I read somewhere that the BIOS must be USB aware for USB to work. Is this
correct and why?
The motherboard is quite old with an old 333MHz processor, can't remember
if it's AMD or Intel. Unfortunately apart from a "ver3.0" in one corner,
there are no names or numbers to be found. I haven't looked on the
reverse side but really don't expect to find anything there. If I use PC
Wizard, it comes back with motherboard and BIOS manufacturer and model
unknown. So it's not possible to find a appropriate BIOS to Flash it
with.
Any ideas? I'd rather not say they should junk it all!
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Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
Re: USB card |
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Fred
Download and run Everest Home from this website.. http://www.lavalys.com
When running, click on the 'motherboard' icon.. so now you know what it is..
there is a link at the base of the window that you can visit to find out
more about your mobo.. if you download the manual, you can then look at BIOS
info relating to your system..
To enter BIOS, tap the 'DEL' key or maybe 'F1' or 'F2' repeatedly as the
system starts up.. the appropriate key varies with make.. you will have
printed off the page relating to the setting, so should be easy enough to
determine how to enable USB support..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f7556$0$23296$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
| Quote: | I have added to a friends PC a USB card using one the ubiquitous NEC
devices.
I had expected, perhaps naively, that WinXP would find the card and
install drivers for everything to be hunky-dory.
However there was a problem and although the USB ports and hubs were in
device manager they didn't work and start.
I read somewhere that the BIOS must be USB aware for USB to work. Is this
correct and why?
The motherboard is quite old with an old 333MHz processor, can't remember
if it's AMD or Intel. Unfortunately apart from a "ver3.0" in one corner,
there are no names or numbers to be found. I haven't looked on the
reverse side but really don't expect to find anything there. If I use PC
Wizard, it comes back with motherboard and BIOS manufacturer and model
unknown. So it's not possible to find a appropriate BIOS to Flash it
with.
Any ideas? I'd rather not say they should junk it all!
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Fred
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
Re: USB card |
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"Grim Reaper" <gdewdneyatsilvertechcouk> wrote in message
news:exGJovi2FHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | A 333??? Unfortunately, I recommend junk it all!!
A motherboard/CPU/RAM upgrade should cost less than £100 - even going up
to 1.8 Ghz.
If you can find anyone who still sells them... lol
___________________________________________
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I was expecting a reply like yours. Yes it's slow but it works. I've done
an upgrade for myself a short while ago. But for some people £100 is not
chicken feed. |
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Jim Macklin
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
Re: USB card |
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Are you running XP SP1 or SP2? How old is the USB card, is
it a USB 2.0 card?
The BIOS must be USB aware for USB to start before Windows
boots, but Windows will turn it on after the boot. If the
mobo did not have any USB ports, I doubt if you'll find a
BIOS update that will include USB support.
In device manager, select the USB card and update the driver
from the web or Windows.
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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
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"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f7556$0$23296$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
|I have added to a friends PC a USB card using one the
ubiquitous NEC
| devices.
|
| I had expected, perhaps naively, that WinXP would find the
card and install
| drivers for everything to be hunky-dory.
|
| However there was a problem and although the USB ports and
hubs were in
| device manager they didn't work and start.
|
| I read somewhere that the BIOS must be USB aware for USB
to work. Is this
| correct and why?
|
| The motherboard is quite old with an old 333MHz processor,
can't remember if
| it's AMD or Intel. Unfortunately apart from a "ver3.0" in
one corner, there
| are no names or numbers to be found. I haven't looked on
the reverse side
| but really don't expect to find anything there. If I use
PC Wizard, it
| comes back with motherboard and BIOS manufacturer and
model unknown. So
| it's not possible to find a appropriate BIOS to Flash it
with.
|
| Any ideas? I'd rather not say they should junk it all!
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Fred
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
Re: USB card |
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I have been into the BIOS but don't recall any relevant setting. I believe
the BIOS is probably B-USB as in before USB and so wouldn't expect to see
any USB support in any setup screen.
This may sound silly but given it's a PCI card with the normal PCI
interrupts and addresses etc, why does BIOS need to get involved?
Many thanks for the link. I have downloaded the EverestHome and will be
installing this next time I make a visit.
I was wondering if the motherboard was a clone of some sort! Just seemed
strange to have no markings.
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:ega5b6i2FHA.3156@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Fred
Download and run Everest Home from this website.. http://www.lavalys.com
When running, click on the 'motherboard' icon.. so now you know what it
is.. there is a link at the base of the window that you can visit to find
out more about your mobo.. if you download the manual, you can then look
at BIOS info relating to your system..
To enter BIOS, tap the 'DEL' key or maybe 'F1' or 'F2' repeatedly as the
system starts up.. the appropriate key varies with make.. you will have
printed off the page relating to the setting, so should be easy enough to
determine how to enable USB support..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f7556$0$23296$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
I have added to a friends PC a USB card using one the ubiquitous NEC
devices.
I had expected, perhaps naively, that WinXP would find the card and
install drivers for everything to be hunky-dory.
However there was a problem and although the USB ports and hubs were in
device manager they didn't work and start.
I read somewhere that the BIOS must be USB aware for USB to work. Is
this correct and why?
The motherboard is quite old with an old 333MHz processor, can't remember
if it's AMD or Intel. Unfortunately apart from a "ver3.0" in one corner,
there are no names or numbers to be found. I haven't looked on the
reverse side but really don't expect to find anything there. If I use PC
Wizard, it comes back with motherboard and BIOS manufacturer and model
unknown. So it's not possible to find a appropriate BIOS to Flash it
with.
Any ideas? I'd rather not say they should junk it all!
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Richard Urban
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
Re: USB card |
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Hi Mike,
Even if USB is disabled in the bios, that pertains only to built in ports -
not an add in card that uses it's own drivers or XP supplied drivers.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:esnokfj2FHA.3244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Fred
For some reason, older boards had USB disabled by default.. do you have
SP1 or SP2 installed?..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f8b68$0$23293$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
I have been into the BIOS but don't recall any relevant setting. I
believe the BIOS is probably B-USB as in before USB and so wouldn't expect
to see any USB support in any setup screen.
This may sound silly but given it's a PCI card with the normal PCI
interrupts and addresses etc, why does BIOS need to get involved?
Many thanks for the link. I have downloaded the EverestHome and will be
installing this next time I make a visit.
I was wondering if the motherboard was a clone of some sort! Just seemed
strange to have no markings.
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:ega5b6i2FHA.3156@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Fred
Download and run Everest Home from this website.. http://www.lavalys.com
When running, click on the 'motherboard' icon.. so now you know what it
is.. there is a link at the base of the window that you can visit to
find out more about your mobo.. if you download the manual, you can then
look at BIOS info relating to your system..
To enter BIOS, tap the 'DEL' key or maybe 'F1' or 'F2' repeatedly as the
system starts up.. the appropriate key varies with make.. you will have
printed off the page relating to the setting, so should be easy enough
to determine how to enable USB support..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f7556$0$23296$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
I have added to a friends PC a USB card using one the ubiquitous NEC
devices.
I had expected, perhaps naively, that WinXP would find the card and
install drivers for everything to be hunky-dory.
However there was a problem and although the USB ports and hubs were in
device manager they didn't work and start.
I read somewhere that the BIOS must be USB aware for USB to work. Is
this correct and why?
The motherboard is quite old with an old 333MHz processor, can't
remember if it's AMD or Intel. Unfortunately apart from a "ver3.0" in
one corner, there are no names or numbers to be found. I haven't
looked on the reverse side but really don't expect to find anything
there. If I use PC Wizard, it comes back with motherboard and BIOS
manufacturer and model unknown. So it's not possible to find a
appropriate BIOS to Flash it with.
Any ideas? I'd rather not say they should junk it all!
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Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Guest
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:
Re: USB card |
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Fred
For some reason, older boards had USB disabled by default.. do you have SP1
or SP2 installed?..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f8b68$0$23293$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
| Quote: | I have been into the BIOS but don't recall any relevant setting. I believe
the BIOS is probably B-USB as in before USB and so wouldn't expect to see
any USB support in any setup screen.
This may sound silly but given it's a PCI card with the normal PCI
interrupts and addresses etc, why does BIOS need to get involved?
Many thanks for the link. I have downloaded the EverestHome and will be
installing this next time I make a visit.
I was wondering if the motherboard was a clone of some sort! Just seemed
strange to have no markings.
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:ega5b6i2FHA.3156@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Fred
Download and run Everest Home from this website.. http://www.lavalys.com
When running, click on the 'motherboard' icon.. so now you know what it
is.. there is a link at the base of the window that you can visit to find
out more about your mobo.. if you download the manual, you can then look
at BIOS info relating to your system..
To enter BIOS, tap the 'DEL' key or maybe 'F1' or 'F2' repeatedly as the
system starts up.. the appropriate key varies with make.. you will have
printed off the page relating to the setting, so should be easy enough to
determine how to enable USB support..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f7556$0$23296$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
I have added to a friends PC a USB card using one the ubiquitous NEC
devices.
I had expected, perhaps naively, that WinXP would find the card and
install drivers for everything to be hunky-dory.
However there was a problem and although the USB ports and hubs were in
device manager they didn't work and start.
I read somewhere that the BIOS must be USB aware for USB to work. Is
this correct and why?
The motherboard is quite old with an old 333MHz processor, can't
remember if it's AMD or Intel. Unfortunately apart from a "ver3.0" in
one corner, there are no names or numbers to be found. I haven't looked
on the reverse side but really don't expect to find anything there. If
I use PC Wizard, it comes back with motherboard and BIOS manufacturer
and model unknown. So it's not possible to find a appropriate BIOS to
Flash it with.
Any ideas? I'd rather not say they should junk it all!
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Mike Hall (MS-MVP)
Guest
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject:
Re: USB card |
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Richard
True enough..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:utyxmGk2FHA.3964@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Hi Mike,
Even if USB is disabled in the bios, that pertains only to built in
ports - not an add in card that uses it's own drivers or XP supplied
drivers.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:esnokfj2FHA.3244@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Fred
For some reason, older boards had USB disabled by default.. do you have
SP1 or SP2 installed?..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f8b68$0$23293$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
I have been into the BIOS but don't recall any relevant setting. I
believe the BIOS is probably B-USB as in before USB and so wouldn't
expect to see any USB support in any setup screen.
This may sound silly but given it's a PCI card with the normal PCI
interrupts and addresses etc, why does BIOS need to get involved?
Many thanks for the link. I have downloaded the EverestHome and will be
installing this next time I make a visit.
I was wondering if the motherboard was a clone of some sort! Just
seemed strange to have no markings.
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:ega5b6i2FHA.3156@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Fred
Download and run Everest Home from this website..
http://www.lavalys.com
When running, click on the 'motherboard' icon.. so now you know what it
is.. there is a link at the base of the window that you can visit to
find out more about your mobo.. if you download the manual, you can
then look at BIOS info relating to your system..
To enter BIOS, tap the 'DEL' key or maybe 'F1' or 'F2' repeatedly as
the system starts up.. the appropriate key varies with make.. you will
have printed off the page relating to the setting, so should be easy
enough to determine how to enable USB support..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f7556$0$23296$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
I have added to a friends PC a USB card using one the ubiquitous NEC
devices.
I had expected, perhaps naively, that WinXP would find the card and
install drivers for everything to be hunky-dory.
However there was a problem and although the USB ports and hubs were
in device manager they didn't work and start.
I read somewhere that the BIOS must be USB aware for USB to work. Is
this correct and why?
The motherboard is quite old with an old 333MHz processor, can't
remember if it's AMD or Intel. Unfortunately apart from a "ver3.0" in
one corner, there are no names or numbers to be found. I haven't
looked on the reverse side but really don't expect to find anything
there. If I use PC Wizard, it comes back with motherboard and BIOS
manufacturer and model unknown. So it's not possible to find a
appropriate BIOS to Flash it with.
Any ideas? I'd rather not say they should junk it all!
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Grim Reaper
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject:
Re: USB card |
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£100 isn't chicken feed to me either - I can barely afford to feed my family
at the moment as it is.
If you did an upgrade "a short while ago", then I dread to think what bucket
of bolts you were using before.
__________________________________________________
The Grim Reaper
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
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"Grim Reaper" <gdewdneyatsilvertechcouk> wrote in message
news:exGJovi2FHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
A 333??? Unfortunately, I recommend junk it all!!
A motherboard/CPU/RAM upgrade should cost less than £100 - even going up
to 1.8 Ghz.
If you can find anyone who still sells them... lol
___________________________________________
I was expecting a reply like yours. Yes it's slow but it works. I've
done an upgrade for myself a short while ago. But for some people £100 is
not chicken feed.
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Fred
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject:
Re: USB card |
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I've now done that and installed it. Unfortunately the program starts and
then just hangs whilst checking PCI stuff.
Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| Quote: | Fred
Download and run Everest Home from this website..
http://www.lavalys.com
When running, click on the 'motherboard' icon.. so now you know what
it is.. there is a link at the base of the window that you can visit
to find out more about your mobo.. if you download the manual, you
can then look at BIOS info relating to your system..
To enter BIOS, tap the 'DEL' key or maybe 'F1' or 'F2' repeatedly as
the system starts up.. the appropriate key varies with make.. you
will have printed off the page relating to the setting, so should be
easy enough to determine how to enable USB support..
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f7556$0$23296$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
I have added to a friends PC a USB card using one the ubiquitous NEC
devices.
I had expected, perhaps naively, that WinXP would find the card and
install drivers for everything to be hunky-dory.
However there was a problem and although the USB ports and hubs were
in device manager they didn't work and start.
I read somewhere that the BIOS must be USB aware for USB to work. Is this
correct and why?
The motherboard is quite old with an old 333MHz processor, can't
remember if it's AMD or Intel. Unfortunately apart from a "ver3.0"
in one corner, there are no names or numbers to be found. I haven't
looked on the reverse side but really don't expect to find anything
there. If I use PC Wizard, it comes back with motherboard and BIOS
manufacturer and model unknown. So it's not possible to find a
appropriate BIOS to Flash it with.
Any ideas? I'd rather not say they should junk it all! |
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Fred
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject:
Re: USB card |
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SP2 is installed.
Mike Hall (MS-MVP) wrote:
| Quote: | Fred
For some reason, older boards had USB disabled by default.. do you
have SP1 or SP2 installed?..
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f8b68$0$23293$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
I have been into the BIOS but don't recall any relevant setting. I
believe the BIOS is probably B-USB as in before USB and so wouldn't
expect to see any USB support in any setup screen.
This may sound silly but given it's a PCI card with the normal PCI
interrupts and addresses etc, why does BIOS need to get involved?
Many thanks for the link. I have downloaded the EverestHome and
will be installing this next time I make a visit.
I was wondering if the motherboard was a clone of some sort! Just
seemed strange to have no markings.
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:ega5b6i2FHA.3156@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Fred
Download and run Everest Home from this website..
http://www.lavalys.com When running, click on the 'motherboard' icon..
so now you know
what it is.. there is a link at the base of the window that you can
visit to find out more about your mobo.. if you download the
manual, you can then look at BIOS info relating to your system..
To enter BIOS, tap the 'DEL' key or maybe 'F1' or 'F2' repeatedly
as the system starts up.. the appropriate key varies with make..
you will have printed off the page relating to the setting, so
should be easy enough to determine how to enable USB support..
--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User
"Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote in message
news:435f7556$0$23296$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
I have added to a friends PC a USB card using one the ubiquitous
NEC devices.
I had expected, perhaps naively, that WinXP would find the card and
install drivers for everything to be hunky-dory.
However there was a problem and although the USB ports and hubs
were in device manager they didn't work and start.
I read somewhere that the BIOS must be USB aware for USB to work. Is
this correct and why?
The motherboard is quite old with an old 333MHz processor, can't
remember if it's AMD or Intel. Unfortunately apart from a
"ver3.0" in one corner, there are no names or numbers to be found.
I haven't looked on the reverse side but really don't expect to
find anything there. If I use PC Wizard, it comes back with
motherboard and BIOS manufacturer and model unknown. So it's not
possible to find a appropriate BIOS to Flash it with.
Any ideas? I'd rather not say they should junk it all! |
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