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LIKAI
Guest
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 Posted:
Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:39 am Post subject:
Headless system with no VGA adapter Help |
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Hi,
I am currently porting xp embedded on a headless system. It is a Transmeta
cpu with no on board VGA function or external adapter.
I followed the porting guide on MSDN. (posted at the end of this email).
The system cannot even go to FBA when I try the compiled image on board. It
will work if I plugged a external VGA adapter.
I tried to use windbg and add "/debug /debugport=com1 /baudrate=115200" at
the boot.ini for any debug information. However, without the external VGA
adapter, I don't even get any message on the windbg on the host.
I found the debug message will only output at the end of the white bar when
I use an external VGA adapter. I am guessing the system hangs during the
first white bar.
I also tried to use the external VGA adapter to pass the FBA initialization.
In the next boot up, I unplug the VGA adapter. It fails exactly the same as
if I first try before the FBA.
I tried the use only one of the Headless VGA Driver and Terminal Services
Core or both without success.
Questions:
1. Did I miss something for the configuration of headless system?
2. I found if I only include the "Terminal Service Core", "headless vga
driver" component will be loaded automatically during dependency check, why
is the help file on the MSDN mention " you must include one of these
components, but not both"?
3. Is there any special BIOS modification for this system?
Thanks for the help.
Victor
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To add support for a headless system
1.. In Target Designer, open your configuration.
2.. Add one of the following components to your configuration.
Headless VGA Driver
-or-
Terminal Services Core
To build a system that boots with no VGA card, you must include one of
these components, but not both.
If you add the Terminal Services component to your configuration, it will
considerably increase the size of your run-time image footprint.
3.. Add the VGA Boot Driver Component to your configuration. The VGA Boot
Driver component, Bootvid.dll, is required by NTLDR regardless of whether a
VGA card is present in your configuration.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
4.. Check dependencies and build your run-time image.
If a video card is present and you want to use an attached display, the
VGA Save Driver Component is required. It is not required for a headless
system with no graphics adapter. However, a dependency check error occurs if
you do not include it in your configuration. You can disregard this error.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less. |
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Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)
Guest
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| Posted:
Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:33 am Post subject:
Re: Headless system with no VGA adapter Help |
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Hi LIKAI,
I'm sorry I do not see what is manufacturer of your board and what model.
For headless boot to work, BIOS must be able to pass control to MBR code instead of reporting error with video adapter. If not then
boot will not happen.
Check in BIOS there might be some error reporting option regarding the video adapter.
Regards,
Slobodan
"LIKAI" <victorlai@aaeon.com.tw> wrote in message news:Oe3Ho3v5EHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Hi,
I am currently porting xp embedded on a headless system. It is a Transmeta
cpu with no on board VGA function or external adapter.
I followed the porting guide on MSDN. (posted at the end of this email).
The system cannot even go to FBA when I try the compiled image on board. It
will work if I plugged a external VGA adapter.
I tried to use windbg and add "/debug /debugport=com1 /baudrate=115200" at
the boot.ini for any debug information. However, without the external VGA
adapter, I don't even get any message on the windbg on the host.
I found the debug message will only output at the end of the white bar when
I use an external VGA adapter. I am guessing the system hangs during the
first white bar.
I also tried to use the external VGA adapter to pass the FBA initialization.
In the next boot up, I unplug the VGA adapter. It fails exactly the same as
if I first try before the FBA.
I tried the use only one of the Headless VGA Driver and Terminal Services
Core or both without success.
Questions:
1. Did I miss something for the configuration of headless system?
2. I found if I only include the "Terminal Service Core", "headless vga
driver" component will be loaded automatically during dependency check, why
is the help file on the MSDN mention " you must include one of these
components, but not both"?
3. Is there any special BIOS modification for this system?
Thanks for the help.
Victor
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------
To add support for a headless system
1.. In Target Designer, open your configuration.
2.. Add one of the following components to your configuration.
Headless VGA Driver
-or-
Terminal Services Core
To build a system that boots with no VGA card, you must include one of
these components, but not both.
If you add the Terminal Services component to your configuration, it will
considerably increase the size of your run-time image footprint.
3.. Add the VGA Boot Driver Component to your configuration. The VGA Boot
Driver component, Bootvid.dll, is required by NTLDR regardless of whether a
VGA card is present in your configuration.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
4.. Check dependencies and build your run-time image.
If a video card is present and you want to use an attached display, the
VGA Save Driver Component is required. It is not required for a headless
system with no graphics adapter. However, a dependency check error occurs if
you do not include it in your configuration. You can disregard this error.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
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LIKAI
Guest
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| Posted:
Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:33 am Post subject:
Re: Headless system with no VGA adapter Help |
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Dear Slobodan,
The system can boot to DOS with no problem. Dos Windows XPE need special
reporting on the bios call return?
I'll check BIOS code again and see if I can find something similar to
"report no error if no video adapter".
Thanks!
"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> 级糶秎ン穝籇:%23JldL5x5EHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Hi LIKAI,
I'm sorry I do not see what is manufacturer of your board and what model.
For headless boot to work, BIOS must be able to pass control to MBR code
instead of reporting error with video adapter. If not then
boot will not happen.
Check in BIOS there might be some error reporting option regarding the
video adapter.
Regards,
Slobodan
"LIKAI" <victorlai@aaeon.com.tw> wrote in message
news:Oe3Ho3v5EHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
I am currently porting xp embedded on a headless system. It is a
Transmeta
cpu with no on board VGA function or external adapter.
I followed the porting guide on MSDN. (posted at the end of this email).
The system cannot even go to FBA when I try the compiled image on board.
It
will work if I plugged a external VGA adapter.
I tried to use windbg and add "/debug /debugport=com1 /baudrate=115200"
at
the boot.ini for any debug information. However, without the external VGA
adapter, I don't even get any message on the windbg on the host.
I found the debug message will only output at the end of the white bar
when
I use an external VGA adapter. I am guessing the system hangs during the
first white bar.
I also tried to use the external VGA adapter to pass the FBA
initialization.
In the next boot up, I unplug the VGA adapter. It fails exactly the same
as
if I first try before the FBA.
I tried the use only one of the Headless VGA Driver and Terminal Services
Core or both without success.
Questions:
1. Did I miss something for the configuration of headless system?
2. I found if I only include the "Terminal Service Core", "headless vga
driver" component will be loaded automatically during dependency check,
why
is the help file on the MSDN mention " you must include one of these
components, but not both"?
3. Is there any special BIOS modification for this system?
Thanks for the help.
Victor
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------
To add support for a headless system
1.. In Target Designer, open your configuration.
2.. Add one of the following components to your configuration.
Headless VGA Driver
-or-
Terminal Services Core
To build a system that boots with no VGA card, you must include one of
these components, but not both.
If you add the Terminal Services component to your configuration, it
will
considerably increase the size of your run-time image footprint.
3.. Add the VGA Boot Driver Component to your configuration. The VGA
Boot
Driver component, Bootvid.dll, is required by NTLDR regardless of whether
a
VGA card is present in your configuration.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
4.. Check dependencies and build your run-time image.
If a video card is present and you want to use an attached display, the
VGA Save Driver Component is required. It is not required for a headless
system with no graphics adapter. However, a dependency check error occurs
if
you do not include it in your configuration. You can disregard this
error.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
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Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)
Guest
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| Posted:
Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:48 am Post subject:
Re: Headless system with no VGA adapter Help |
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Hi LIKAI,
Then BIOS is not your problem.
You might have a problem with either debugger over RS-232 port (This happens with some EHCI controllers enabled). In this case you
can connect and break in system with debugger after system is running. At least this will let you know if this is a problems for
you.
Other option that you have is to use debug version of ntldr that you can monitor. This you should use in case that drivers won't
load at all.
Regards,
Slobodan
"LIKAI" <victorlai@aaeon.com.tw> wrote in message news:OTRaGcy5EHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Dear Slobodan,
The system can boot to DOS with no problem. Dos Windows XPE need special
reporting on the bios call return?
I'll check BIOS code again and see if I can find something similar to
"report no error if no video adapter".
Thanks!
"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> 级糶秎ン穝籇:%23JldL5x5EHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi LIKAI,
I'm sorry I do not see what is manufacturer of your board and what model.
For headless boot to work, BIOS must be able to pass control to MBR code
instead of reporting error with video adapter. If not then
boot will not happen.
Check in BIOS there might be some error reporting option regarding the
video adapter.
Regards,
Slobodan
"LIKAI" <victorlai@aaeon.com.tw> wrote in message
news:Oe3Ho3v5EHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
I am currently porting xp embedded on a headless system. It is a
Transmeta
cpu with no on board VGA function or external adapter.
I followed the porting guide on MSDN. (posted at the end of this email).
The system cannot even go to FBA when I try the compiled image on board.
It
will work if I plugged a external VGA adapter.
I tried to use windbg and add "/debug /debugport=com1 /baudrate=115200"
at
the boot.ini for any debug information. However, without the external VGA
adapter, I don't even get any message on the windbg on the host.
I found the debug message will only output at the end of the white bar
when
I use an external VGA adapter. I am guessing the system hangs during the
first white bar.
I also tried to use the external VGA adapter to pass the FBA
initialization.
In the next boot up, I unplug the VGA adapter. It fails exactly the same
as
if I first try before the FBA.
I tried the use only one of the Headless VGA Driver and Terminal Services
Core or both without success.
Questions:
1. Did I miss something for the configuration of headless system?
2. I found if I only include the "Terminal Service Core", "headless vga
driver" component will be loaded automatically during dependency check,
why
is the help file on the MSDN mention " you must include one of these
components, but not both"?
3. Is there any special BIOS modification for this system?
Thanks for the help.
Victor
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-------------------------------------
To add support for a headless system
1.. In Target Designer, open your configuration.
2.. Add one of the following components to your configuration.
Headless VGA Driver
-or-
Terminal Services Core
To build a system that boots with no VGA card, you must include one of
these components, but not both.
If you add the Terminal Services component to your configuration, it
will
considerably increase the size of your run-time image footprint.
3.. Add the VGA Boot Driver Component to your configuration. The VGA
Boot
Driver component, Bootvid.dll, is required by NTLDR regardless of whether
a
VGA card is present in your configuration.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
4.. Check dependencies and build your run-time image.
If a video card is present and you want to use an attached display, the
VGA Save Driver Component is required. It is not required for a headless
system with no graphics adapter. However, a dependency check error occurs
if
you do not include it in your configuration. You can disregard this
error.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
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KM
Guest
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| Posted:
Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:27 pm Post subject:
Re: Headless system with no VGA adapter Help |
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How about building Min Kernel Demo image and connecting to it with KD?
If debug version of ntldr does not help much (if ntldr phase is passed fine), then kernel can be tested a bit. At least you should
see the "Hello World" :-)
KM
| Quote: | Hi LIKAI,
Then BIOS is not your problem.
You might have a problem with either debugger over RS-232 port (This happens with some EHCI controllers enabled). In this case you
can connect and break in system with debugger after system is running. At least this will let you know if this is a problems for
you.
Other option that you have is to use debug version of ntldr that you can monitor. This you should use in case that drivers won't
load at all.
Regards,
Slobodan
"LIKAI" <victorlai@aaeon.com.tw> wrote in message news:OTRaGcy5EHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Dear Slobodan,
The system can boot to DOS with no problem. Dos Windows XPE need special
reporting on the bios call return?
I'll check BIOS code again and see if I can find something similar to
"report no error if no video adapter".
Thanks!
"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> 级糶秎ン穝籇:%23JldL5x5EHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi LIKAI,
I'm sorry I do not see what is manufacturer of your board and what model.
For headless boot to work, BIOS must be able to pass control to MBR code
instead of reporting error with video adapter. If not then
boot will not happen.
Check in BIOS there might be some error reporting option regarding the
video adapter.
Regards,
Slobodan
"LIKAI" <victorlai@aaeon.com.tw> wrote in message
news:Oe3Ho3v5EHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
I am currently porting xp embedded on a headless system. It is a
Transmeta
cpu with no on board VGA function or external adapter.
I followed the porting guide on MSDN. (posted at the end of this email).
The system cannot even go to FBA when I try the compiled image on board.
It
will work if I plugged a external VGA adapter.
I tried to use windbg and add "/debug /debugport=com1 /baudrate=115200"
at
the boot.ini for any debug information. However, without the external VGA
adapter, I don't even get any message on the windbg on the host.
I found the debug message will only output at the end of the white bar
when
I use an external VGA adapter. I am guessing the system hangs during the
first white bar.
I also tried to use the external VGA adapter to pass the FBA
initialization.
In the next boot up, I unplug the VGA adapter. It fails exactly the same
as
if I first try before the FBA.
I tried the use only one of the Headless VGA Driver and Terminal Services
Core or both without success.
Questions:
1. Did I miss something for the configuration of headless system?
2. I found if I only include the "Terminal Service Core", "headless vga
driver" component will be loaded automatically during dependency check,
why
is the help file on the MSDN mention " you must include one of these
components, but not both"?
3. Is there any special BIOS modification for this system?
Thanks for the help.
Victor
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-------------------------------------
To add support for a headless system
1.. In Target Designer, open your configuration.
2.. Add one of the following components to your configuration.
Headless VGA Driver
-or-
Terminal Services Core
To build a system that boots with no VGA card, you must include one of
these components, but not both.
If you add the Terminal Services component to your configuration, it
will
considerably increase the size of your run-time image footprint.
3.. Add the VGA Boot Driver Component to your configuration. The VGA
Boot
Driver component, Bootvid.dll, is required by NTLDR regardless of whether
a
VGA card is present in your configuration.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
4.. Check dependencies and build your run-time image.
If a video card is present and you want to use an attached display, the
VGA Save Driver Component is required. It is not required for a headless
system with no graphics adapter. However, a dependency check error occurs
if
you do not include it in your configuration. You can disregard this
error.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
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KM
Guest
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| Posted:
Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:27 pm Post subject:
Re: Headless system with no VGA adapter Help |
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LIKAI,
WinDDK.
Or contact MS support. I don't think it will be of any charge but you better check.
KM
| Quote: | May I ask where I can find the debug version of ntldr?
I've always thought using "/debug /debugport=com1 /baudrate=115200" on boot.ini is all there is.
Thanks for the help.
"KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> 级糶秎ン穝籇:OfkqdDz5EHA.1524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
How about building Min Kernel Demo image and connecting to it with KD?
If debug version of ntldr does not help much (if ntldr phase is passed fine), then kernel can be tested a bit. At least you
should see the "Hello World" :-)
KM
Hi LIKAI,
Then BIOS is not your problem.
You might have a problem with either debugger over RS-232 port (This happens with some EHCI controllers enabled). In this case
you
can connect and break in system with debugger after system is running. At least this will let you know if this is a problems for
you.
Other option that you have is to use debug version of ntldr that you can monitor. This you should use in case that drivers won't
load at all.
Regards,
Slobodan
"LIKAI" <victorlai@aaeon.com.tw> wrote in message news:OTRaGcy5EHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Dear Slobodan,
The system can boot to DOS with no problem. Dos Windows XPE need special
reporting on the bios call return?
I'll check BIOS code again and see if I can find something similar to
"report no error if no video adapter".
Thanks!
"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> 级糶秎ン穝籇:%23JldL5x5EHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi LIKAI,
I'm sorry I do not see what is manufacturer of your board and what model.
For headless boot to work, BIOS must be able to pass control to MBR code
instead of reporting error with video adapter. If not then
boot will not happen.
Check in BIOS there might be some error reporting option regarding the
video adapter.
Regards,
Slobodan
"LIKAI" <victorlai@aaeon.com.tw> wrote in message
news:Oe3Ho3v5EHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
I am currently porting xp embedded on a headless system. It is a
Transmeta
cpu with no on board VGA function or external adapter.
I followed the porting guide on MSDN. (posted at the end of this email).
The system cannot even go to FBA when I try the compiled image on board.
It
will work if I plugged a external VGA adapter.
I tried to use windbg and add "/debug /debugport=com1 /baudrate=115200"
at
the boot.ini for any debug information. However, without the external VGA
adapter, I don't even get any message on the windbg on the host.
I found the debug message will only output at the end of the white bar
when
I use an external VGA adapter. I am guessing the system hangs during the
first white bar.
I also tried to use the external VGA adapter to pass the FBA
initialization.
In the next boot up, I unplug the VGA adapter. It fails exactly the same
as
if I first try before the FBA.
I tried the use only one of the Headless VGA Driver and Terminal Services
Core or both without success.
Questions:
1. Did I miss something for the configuration of headless system?
2. I found if I only include the "Terminal Service Core", "headless vga
driver" component will be loaded automatically during dependency check,
why
is the help file on the MSDN mention " you must include one of these
components, but not both"?
3. Is there any special BIOS modification for this system?
Thanks for the help.
Victor
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-------------------------------------
To add support for a headless system
1.. In Target Designer, open your configuration.
2.. Add one of the following components to your configuration.
Headless VGA Driver
-or-
Terminal Services Core
To build a system that boots with no VGA card, you must include one of
these components, but not both.
If you add the Terminal Services component to your configuration, it
will
considerably increase the size of your run-time image footprint.
3.. Add the VGA Boot Driver Component to your configuration. The VGA
Boot
Driver component, Bootvid.dll, is required by NTLDR regardless of whether
a
VGA card is present in your configuration.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
4.. Check dependencies and build your run-time image.
If a video card is present and you want to use an attached display, the
VGA Save Driver Component is required. It is not required for a headless
system with no graphics adapter. However, a dependency check error occurs
if
you do not include it in your configuration. You can disregard this
error.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
|
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|
| Back to top |
|
|
LIKAI
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:27 pm Post subject:
Re: Headless system with no VGA adapter Help |
|
|
May I ask where I can find the debug version of ntldr?
I've always thought using "/debug /debugport=com1 /baudrate=115200" on
boot.ini is all there is.
Thanks for the help.
"KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> 级糶秎ン穝籇:OfkqdDz5EHA.1524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | How about building Min Kernel Demo image and connecting to it with KD?
If debug version of ntldr does not help much (if ntldr phase is passed
fine), then kernel can be tested a bit. At least you should see the "Hello
World" :-)
KM
Hi LIKAI,
Then BIOS is not your problem.
You might have a problem with either debugger over RS-232 port (This
happens with some EHCI controllers enabled). In this case you
can connect and break in system with debugger after system is running. At
least this will let you know if this is a problems for
you.
Other option that you have is to use debug version of ntldr that you can
monitor. This you should use in case that drivers won't
load at all.
Regards,
Slobodan
"LIKAI" <victorlai@aaeon.com.tw> wrote in message
news:OTRaGcy5EHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Dear Slobodan,
The system can boot to DOS with no problem. Dos Windows XPE need special
reporting on the bios call return?
I'll check BIOS code again and see if I can find something similar to
"report no error if no video adapter".
Thanks!
"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <sbrcin@ptt.yu> 级糶秎ン穝籇:%23JldL5x5EHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi LIKAI,
I'm sorry I do not see what is manufacturer of your board and what
model.
For headless boot to work, BIOS must be able to pass control to MBR
code
instead of reporting error with video adapter. If not then
boot will not happen.
Check in BIOS there might be some error reporting option regarding the
video adapter.
Regards,
Slobodan
"LIKAI" <victorlai@aaeon.com.tw> wrote in message
news:Oe3Ho3v5EHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi,
I am currently porting xp embedded on a headless system. It is a
Transmeta
cpu with no on board VGA function or external adapter.
I followed the porting guide on MSDN. (posted at the end of this
email).
The system cannot even go to FBA when I try the compiled image on
board.
It
will work if I plugged a external VGA adapter.
I tried to use windbg and add "/debug /debugport=com1
/baudrate=115200"
at
the boot.ini for any debug information. However, without the external
VGA
adapter, I don't even get any message on the windbg on the host.
I found the debug message will only output at the end of the white
bar
when
I use an external VGA adapter. I am guessing the system hangs during
the
first white bar.
I also tried to use the external VGA adapter to pass the FBA
initialization.
In the next boot up, I unplug the VGA adapter. It fails exactly the
same
as
if I first try before the FBA.
I tried the use only one of the Headless VGA Driver and Terminal
Services
Core or both without success.
Questions:
1. Did I miss something for the configuration of headless system?
2. I found if I only include the "Terminal Service Core", "headless
vga
driver" component will be loaded automatically during dependency
check,
why
is the help file on the MSDN mention " you must include one of these
components, but not both"?
3. Is there any special BIOS modification for this system?
Thanks for the help.
Victor
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
-------------------------------------
To add support for a headless system
1.. In Target Designer, open your configuration.
2.. Add one of the following components to your configuration.
Headless VGA Driver
-or-
Terminal Services Core
To build a system that boots with no VGA card, you must include one
of
these components, but not both.
If you add the Terminal Services component to your configuration,
it
will
considerably increase the size of your run-time image footprint.
3.. Add the VGA Boot Driver Component to your configuration. The
VGA
Boot
Driver component, Bootvid.dll, is required by NTLDR regardless of
whether
a
VGA card is present in your configuration.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in
Target
Designer to 200 or less.
4.. Check dependencies and build your run-time image.
If a video card is present and you want to use an attached display,
the
VGA Save Driver Component is required. It is not required for a
headless
system with no graphics adapter. However, a dependency check error
occurs
if
you do not include it in your configuration. You can disregard this
error.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in
Target
Designer to 200 or less.
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:52 am Post subject:
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LIKAI,
We forgot to mention one more thing you may be missing if you are using SP1: QFE 331042.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=28c3575e-d373-4d14-85af-960a3c620cb0&DisplayLang=en
KM
| Quote: | Hi,
I am currently porting xp embedded on a headless system. It is a Transmeta cpu with no on board VGA function or external adapter.
I followed the porting guide on MSDN. (posted at the end of this email).
The system cannot even go to FBA when I try the compiled image on board. It will work if I plugged a external VGA adapter.
I tried to use windbg and add "/debug /debugport=com1 /baudrate=115200" at the boot.ini for any debug information. However,
without the external VGA adapter, I don't even get any message on the windbg on the host.
I found the debug message will only output at the end of the white bar when I use an external VGA adapter. I am guessing the
system hangs during the first white bar.
I also tried to use the external VGA adapter to pass the FBA initialization. In the next boot up, I unplug the VGA adapter. It
fails exactly the same as if I first try before the FBA.
I tried the use only one of the Headless VGA Driver and Terminal Services Core or both without success.
Questions:
1. Did I miss something for the configuration of headless system?
2. I found if I only include the "Terminal Service Core", "headless vga driver" component will be loaded automatically during
dependency check, why is the help file on the MSDN mention " you must include one of these components, but not both"?
3. Is there any special BIOS modification for this system?
Thanks for the help.
Victor
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To add support for a headless system
1.. In Target Designer, open your configuration.
2.. Add one of the following components to your configuration.
Headless VGA Driver
-or-
Terminal Services Core
To build a system that boots with no VGA card, you must include one of these components, but not both.
If you add the Terminal Services component to your configuration, it will considerably increase the size of your run-time image
footprint.
3.. Add the VGA Boot Driver Component to your configuration. The VGA Boot Driver component, Bootvid.dll, is required by NTLDR
regardless of whether a VGA card is present in your configuration.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target Designer to 200 or less.
4.. Check dependencies and build your run-time image.
If a video card is present and you want to use an attached display, the VGA Save Driver Component is required. It is not required
for a headless system with no graphics adapter. However, a dependency check error occurs if you do not include it in your
configuration. You can disregard this error. To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target Designer to
200 or less.
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LIKAI
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:38 am Post subject:
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Thanks, KM. But we did that.
Besides that, we tried both SP1 and SP2 (SP2 does not need the fix because
the version number is higher than the fix.)
"KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> 级糶秎ン穝籇:enU%23XL$5EHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | LIKAI,
We forgot to mention one more thing you may be missing if you are using
SP1: QFE 331042.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=28c3575e-d373-4d14-85af-960a3c620cb0&DisplayLang=en
KM
Hi,
I am currently porting xp embedded on a headless system. It is a
Transmeta cpu with no on board VGA function or external adapter.
I followed the porting guide on MSDN. (posted at the end of this email).
The system cannot even go to FBA when I try the compiled image on board.
It will work if I plugged a external VGA adapter.
I tried to use windbg and add "/debug /debugport=com1 /baudrate=115200"
at the boot.ini for any debug information. However, without the external
VGA adapter, I don't even get any message on the windbg on the host.
I found the debug message will only output at the end of the white bar
when I use an external VGA adapter. I am guessing the system hangs during
the first white bar.
I also tried to use the external VGA adapter to pass the FBA
initialization. In the next boot up, I unplug the VGA adapter. It fails
exactly the same as if I first try before the FBA.
I tried the use only one of the Headless VGA Driver and Terminal Services
Core or both without success.
Questions:
1. Did I miss something for the configuration of headless system?
2. I found if I only include the "Terminal Service Core", "headless vga
driver" component will be loaded automatically during dependency check,
why is the help file on the MSDN mention " you must include one of these
components, but not both"?
3. Is there any special BIOS modification for this system?
Thanks for the help.
Victor
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To add support for a headless system
1.. In Target Designer, open your configuration.
2.. Add one of the following components to your configuration.
Headless VGA Driver
-or-
Terminal Services Core
To build a system that boots with no VGA card, you must include one of
these components, but not both.
If you add the Terminal Services component to your configuration, it
will considerably increase the size of your run-time image footprint.
3.. Add the VGA Boot Driver Component to your configuration. The VGA
Boot Driver component, Bootvid.dll, is required by NTLDR regardless of
whether a VGA card is present in your configuration.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
4.. Check dependencies and build your run-time image.
If a video card is present and you want to use an attached display, the
VGA Save Driver Component is required. It is not required for a headless
system with no graphics adapter. However, a dependency check error occurs
if you do not include it in your configuration. You can disregard this
error. To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in
Target Designer to 200 or less.
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KM
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Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:05 am Post subject:
Re: Headless system with no VGA adapter Help |
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LIKAI,
Yup. SP2 does not need this fix.
That was pretty old QFE. MS could not have missed it in SP2 :-)
For SP1 it was worth to mention.
KM
| Quote: | Thanks, KM. But we did that.
Besides that, we tried both SP1 and SP2 (SP2 does not need the fix because the version number is higher than the fix.)
"KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com> 级糶秎ン穝籇:enU%23XL$5EHA.3944@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
LIKAI,
We forgot to mention one more thing you may be missing if you are using SP1: QFE 331042.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=28c3575e-d373-4d14-85af-960a3c620cb0&DisplayLang=en
KM
Hi,
I am currently porting xp embedded on a headless system. It is a Transmeta cpu with no on board VGA function or external
adapter.
I followed the porting guide on MSDN. (posted at the end of this email).
The system cannot even go to FBA when I try the compiled image on board. It will work if I plugged a external VGA adapter.
I tried to use windbg and add "/debug /debugport=com1 /baudrate=115200" at the boot.ini for any debug information. However,
without the external VGA adapter, I don't even get any message on the windbg on the host.
I found the debug message will only output at the end of the white bar when I use an external VGA adapter. I am guessing the
system hangs during the first white bar.
I also tried to use the external VGA adapter to pass the FBA initialization. In the next boot up, I unplug the VGA adapter. It
fails exactly the same as if I first try before the FBA.
I tried the use only one of the Headless VGA Driver and Terminal Services Core or both without success.
Questions:
1. Did I miss something for the configuration of headless system?
2. I found if I only include the "Terminal Service Core", "headless vga driver" component will be loaded automatically during
dependency check, why is the help file on the MSDN mention " you must include one of these components, but not both"?
3. Is there any special BIOS modification for this system?
Thanks for the help.
Victor
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To add support for a headless system
1.. In Target Designer, open your configuration.
2.. Add one of the following components to your configuration.
Headless VGA Driver
-or-
Terminal Services Core
To build a system that boots with no VGA card, you must include one of these components, but not both.
If you add the Terminal Services component to your configuration, it will considerably increase the size of your run-time image
footprint.
3.. Add the VGA Boot Driver Component to your configuration. The VGA Boot Driver component, Bootvid.dll, is required by NTLDR
regardless of whether a VGA card is present in your configuration.
To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target Designer to 200 or less.
4.. Check dependencies and build your run-time image.
If a video card is present and you want to use an attached display, the VGA Save Driver Component is required. It is not
required for a headless system with no graphics adapter. However, a dependency check error occurs if you do not include it in
your configuration. You can disregard this error. To see this component, you must set the visibility threshold in Target
Designer to 200 or less.
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